Quitting

i still like acelino freitas and think he can beat corrales

Jeez guys have you lot not heard Durans version of events here? This is straight up, he reckons he had the shits and another body shot woould have caused him to crap all over the judges and most of the ringside crowd. This is not a joke this is a bona fide excuse from Duran. The other school of thought was Duran was alledgedly a bit partial to a bit of the colombian marching powder and had been tucking in a bit in the build up to the fight and wasnt in the right mental state. either hold credence as he never did anything like that in his careerr and was one of the biggest hearted fighters ever to grace the square circle. If he did have the shits then that is a reason. Only he and anyone near him when he actually hit the bathroom know for sure. But the coke excuse only makes it worse. Now he is not only a fighter who quits but one who goes into a fight on coke and quits.

Jeez guys have you lot not heard Durans version of events here? This is straight up, he reckons he had the shits and another body shot woould have caused him to crap all over the judges and most of the ringside crowd. This is not a joke this is a bona fide excuse from Duran. The other school of thought was Duran was alledgedly a bit partial to a bit of the colombian marching powder and had been tucking in a bit in the build up to the fight and wasnt in the right mental state. either hold credence as he never did anything like that in his careerr and was one of the biggest hearted fighters ever to grace the square circle. OK I didn't know about that, I just said what I felt was true from watching it...

There is no excuse for what Duran did that night. I think he was an incredibly tough guy and a vicious boxer but that fight will forever taint his image. It wasn't like he simply stayed down after taking a terrible beating; he quit because he was frustrated. He had been outboxed and outclassed and caved in from the humiliation. That is inexcusable for an athlete who was being paid as much as he was to perform. Jeez guys have you lot not heard Durans version of events here? This is straight up, he reckons he had the shits and another body shot woould have caused him to crap all over the judges and most of the ringside crowd. This is not a joke this is a bona fide excuse from Duran. The other school of thought was Duran was alledgedly a bit partial to a bit of the colombian marching powder and had been tucking in a bit in the build up to the fight and wasnt in the right mental state. either hold credence as he never did anything like that in his careerr and was one of the biggest hearted fighters ever to grace the square circle.

That is exactly the perfect description of what happened. He didn't quit because he was gettig hurt so bad. He did it because he couldn't catch Sugar Ray Leonard. I still laugh when I see him stop the fight. I've never been in such a situation but I can't imagine ever giving up unless I am absolutely being demolished and am in danger of permanent damage. And I probably wouldn't stop even then. I really have too much pride to give the other guy the satisfaction. Another person who stopped the fight but that I think was actually in danger was Freitas. I really think he was hirt and I don't fault him or any boxer who seemingly stops because he is so hurt. A lot of punches that don't look so bad can do a lot more damage than people think. Unless you are the actual boxer you can't know how hurt the boxer is and shouldn't say he is less of a man. I agree there's no shame in quitting if u know u got no chance to win, but a good one to end up like a vegetable. freitas was no coward for me. as for Duran, I was surprised he quit cause when u watch his later fight with barkley he's getting beaten, he's slowing down, is smaller , slower, eveything to loose and yet he comes back with a tremendous KO at 38 years old! that shows a very strong character, never give-up style. but obviously for him not being able to land a single hard shot was too much. I was disappointed, he wasn't getting really hurt

There is no excuse for what Duran did that night. I think he was an incredibly tough guy and a vicious boxer but that fight will forever taint his image. It wasn't like he simply stayed down after taking a terrible beating; he quit because he was frustrated. He had been outboxed and outclassed and caved in from the humiliation. That is inexcusable for an athlete who was being paid as much as he was to perform. That is exactly the perfect description of what happened. He didn't quit because he was gettig hurt so bad. He did it because he couldn't catch Sugar Ray Leonard. I still laugh when I see him stop the fight. I've never been in such a situation but I can't imagine ever giving up unless I am absolutely being demolished and am in danger of permanent damage. And I probably wouldn't stop even then. I really have too much pride to give the other guy the satisfaction. Another person who stopped the fight but that I think was actually in danger was Freitas. I really think he was hirt and I don't fault him or any boxer who seemingly stops because he is so hurt. A lot of punches that don't look so bad can do a lot more damage than people think. Unless you are the actual boxer you can't know how hurt the boxer is and shouldn't say he is less of a man.

Quitting is a coward action, quitters dont disserve respect, i dont care if i was in the ring with Ali (young one) himself, i would not quit until im uncunsius. Real MAN dont quit.

fighters are trained to work through those things. Cracked ribs, busted noses, blood gushing in their eyes from a severe gash over the eye. In the amatuers the first thing it seems I remember about beginning sparring was to work through the cramps. In the corner I'd say that I have a cramp. A squirt of water and a little pep talk and I was out for another round, and my trainer was correct, I never did die from it........Rockin' If it was a stomach cramp to the point that I may possibly go to the bathroom in my shorts during a fight televised world wide I most certainly would quit.

I agree that Duran was an excellent fighter with more heart than most in his early days. But on the night that he rematched Leonard and quit I believe that the word coward fits pretty well. He wasnt getting bombed and I dont believe that he was even cut. He just quit, he was being outclassed. Because he did not have the heart to continue, to maybe try and find a way to get to him. Plain and simple, he just quit.........Rockin' Duran had claimed that he had severe stomach cramps the night he quit against Leonard. If he was in severe pain I don't see him quitting as a bad thing.

Well I dont think any boxer can be called a coward, I wouldn't want to be a boxer does that make me a coward.

When you look at cases like Duk Ku Kim and Gerald McClellan it makes you think that maybe quitting in a fight isn't such a bad thing.

I completely agree, they are getting paid good money to risk themselves the way they do. duran shouldn't have quit because he was frustrated that was low. If a fighter quits after being hurt and you can't really tell if he is hurt or quitting then thats when its OK because on one will find out otherwise it just shows someones a coward. Duran is a legend that has had 119 fights in his pro career, a champion in four different weight divisions, he's anything but a coward.

someone ask holyfield about his views on quiting.

golota Even though Golata did punk out when he fought Tyson, at least he can say he punked out to Tyson, one of the greatest punchers who ever lived..Imagine Duran's humility, quitting vs Ray Leonard, who had some power but not much

If your just frusterated over whats going on then it is disgracefull to just quit. However, if your taking a horrible beating and quit, well, then you will live to fight another day when maybe your game is on.............Rockin' I agree, that's what made it so bad for me is that he was never in trouble, he was just being embarassed. I'll bet if he would have known that Leonard wasn't going to lay on the ropes again, and was going to fight his fight, instead of Duran's, he wouldn't have been so eager to fight him again.

golota did this too in the tyson bout, IMO, to quit when being pummelled and hurt is ok but out of frustration, thats another thing. boxing is a profession and people paid good money to watch a fight its not a just a backyard game when you can call it even when you want to. boxers get himself in the match, at least give dignity in finishing the bout...

Exactly Rockin. Max Baer staying on his knee and letting himself get counted out against Louis? Smart. Duran quitting versus Leonard? A disgrace.

There is no excuse for what Duran did that night. I think he was an incredibly tough guy and a vicious boxer but that fight will forever taint his image. It wasn't like he simply stayed down after taking a terrible beating; he quit because he was frustrated. He had been outboxed and outclassed and caved in from the humiliated. That is inexcusable for an athlete who was being paid as much as he was to perform. That's probably the only incidence of this where I would cut the quitter absolutely no slack. After all the shit he said about Leonard and his family before the first fight, and undoubtedly before the second as well, and then to quit like a pansy was for me, unforgivable. If he hadn't talked all that shit, maybe I would say "well he just realized he wasn't in the fight, and saw no way to get himself back in it..." no, I take that back, I would still call him a pansy, it's not like he was being beaten badly, just humiliated.

I think you owe it to the fans who paid good money to see the fight to finish it.

There is no excuse for what Duran did that night. I think he was an incredibly tough guy and a vicious boxer but that fight will forever taint his image. It wasn't like he simply stayed down after taking a terrible beating; he quit because he was frustrated. He had been outboxed and outclassed and caved in from the humiliated. That is inexcusable for an athlete who was being paid as much as he was to perform. I completely agree, they are getting paid good money to risk themselves the way they do. duran shouldn't have quit because he was frustrated that was low. If a fighter quits after being hurt and you can't really tell if he is hurt or quitting then thats when its OK because on one will find out otherwise it just shows someones a coward.