Marquez is better than MAB or EM

Looking at the fights before he fought Pacman, I'd say that he is really good and sharp. But after the Pacman sent him 3x in 3 mins and broke his nose and re-arranged his face that night, I don't think he is the same Marquez anymore. I am (and a lot of others are) very upset on how he fought against Salido. If he was fighting Pac, EM or Barrera that night, he will probably go out in stretchers. So I'd say MAB and EM are both better (still) than JMM for now.

I hope he fights fight that count. He chooses opponents he can beat up. To be a great champions u have to fight great named fighters. Thats why even though he has 2 belts under him he still hasn't earn the respect he wants.

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no way hes as much a warrior as the rest. he proved that. I'm not saying he's not a warrior..I dont really know how to explain what I mean, except that he's not developed a certain "edge" they have..must come with time??

I like JMM as much as anyone, but I cant consider him as good as either MAB or Morales. Both of them have a rugged, warrior edge to them that he has yet to possess. He's a great counter puncher and a good boxer, but he's not the boxer/slugger that the other two are..no way at all. no way hes as much a warrior as the rest. he proved that.

Always the diplomat, your words ring true. Except the usage of "yet" when you mention warrior edge. When Marquez got up after that third KD and started throwing, getting hit, and throwing, then went the next 11 rounds with more of the same, I was converted. He never had be believing that he had warrior qualities, until then. I figure Marquez consistently fights only slightly above his opponents skill level, to get the win. In Pac-JMM I, Marquez wrongly treated Manny like he knew what to expect and got nailed for it. He'll walk into Pac II not assuming anything and will again fight slightly above his opponents' level for the win. Not the stuff of your typical Mexican warrior, but a win no less. Hey I totally agree that it took alot of guts, strength, courage...alot of the 'good stuff' to get back up and keep fighting, and put on such an outstanding performance! I cant remember the last time I saw something quite like that...very impressive. He just doesnt seem quite as rough around the edges as those two are..but in time that could change. He did have one awesome 'come from behind' fight..but each of the others have had more of those types of fights already, even against each other.

I like JMM as much as anyone, but I cant consider him as good as either MAB or Morales. Both of them have a rugged, warrior edge to them that he has yet to possess. He's a great counter puncher and a good boxer, but he's not the boxer/slugger that the other two are..no way at all. Always the diplomat, your words ring true. Except the usage of "yet" when you mention warrior edge. When Marquez got up after that third KD and started throwing, getting hit, and throwing, then went the next 11 rounds with more of the same, I was converted. He never had be believing that he had warrior qualities, until then. I figure Marquez consistently fights only slightly above his opponents skill level, to get the win. In Pac-JMM I, Marquez wrongly treated Manny like he knew what to expect and got nailed for it. He'll walk into Pac II not assuming anything and will again fight slightly above his opponents' level for the win. Not the stuff of your typical Mexican warrior, but a win no less.

I like JMM as much as anyone, but I cant consider him as good as either MAB or Morales. Both of them have a rugged, warrior edge to them that he has yet to possess. He's a great counter puncher and a good boxer, but he's not the boxer/slugger that the other two are..no way at all.

I was watching footage of Marquez againts Licona and other past fights he had and I have come to the conclusion that Marquez is one bad ass fighter. He is quicker than EM or MAB and It looks like he has more power. I was surprise at how really quick Marquez is when he counters with combos. The thing is, to make JMM exciting you need an agressive fighter like PAC that throws a bunch of punches. I think EM/Marquez would have made a good fight as well. But I think JMM would take Morales out handily. I hope they make the rematch with Pac after the EM fight. I wan't to see how the fighters would adapt in the rematch. um...no Marquez is clearly a level below both.

Againts a puncher like Manny, I think Marquez is very exciting. He does not really get to showcase his excellence unless it is with a fighter who will make him utilize his ability to it's absolute capacity. I think Pacman bring it out of JMM. I hope to see him agains MAB or EM as well. I hope he gets called out by one of the two greats. With just these 4 fighters alone I think the division will be good for a long time. Any combination of the 4 fighters in a match up, including rematches should entertain. EM and MAB will have their hands full with JMM. JMM is a careful calculated fighter who is more intelligent than both Barrera and MAB. I don't think they take him easy if they do at all.

Marquez is a very good boxer, right up there with EM and MAB. Bur I can never tell if he can beat them until they fight each other. On the other hand, Marquez could be the more intelligent of the three great Mexicans, in the ring. People don't like Marquez's style because its not exciting and he doesn't take a lot of risk. But when he punches he makes it count. The guy plays his game in the ring and you gotta respect that.

Marquez got caught alot as well with solid lefts. In the 12 round and some other rounds before that. The sting was out of Pac's left for whatever reason he started to hesitate throwing it. When he began to throw it in the later rounds at a higher clip it started to connect. When Manny missed his mark he paid for it with rapid fire counters. I still think Pac would fight alot better in the rematch, then again, I think Marquez would have trained better and would be in better shape. Pac is dangerous the whole 12 rounds. Marquez is a little less dangerous but can slowly beat you down during the course of the fight. I think this would actually be more exciting than a PAC/EM fight because it is a clash between pure opposites. One, a fighter that is brought to the top levels of the game by being an aggressive, powerful and relentlessly brilliant puncher; the other brought by his extremely masterful, tactical counter punching expertise. When extreme opposites collide it makes for a very interesting match up. Is Marquez' counter punching style enough to survive a savage puncher like Manny? Is Manny's powerful relentless attack enough to overcome a masterful technician? This is the fight. VERY GOOD CONDITIONING is what Pacman needs against Marquez. JMM proved he got the nose and the chin to survive the bombs of MP. But the fight also showed that Pacman lacked very good conditioning unlike in the MAB duel. Morales will never fight JMM coz they have the same promoter. But if JMM transfer then who knows. Unfortunately JMM might leap into GB promotion, so no fight against MAB. Arum and GB don't see eye to eye right now. Anyway JMM's manager seems to be so serious in following the rules of the BELTS. So JMM is in shit for now. JMM needs to fight EM or MAB to get his million$$$ dreams. If he doesn't, we'll never know what he can do against this duo.

who's fighting in your avatar bro? It's Julio Cesar Chavez in his championship fight against Mario Martinez. Julio gets rocked by a right hand and Mario makes the mistake of chasing after him thinking he has him. Julio lands a straight right that seriously hurts Mario and an uppercut. He wins by 8th round TKO. Well it was i changed it back to my old one. ;)

Marquez got caught alot as well with solid lefts. In the 12 round and some other rounds before that. The sting was out of Pac's left for whatever reason he started to hesitate throwing it. When he began to throw it in the later rounds at a higher clip it started to connect. When Manny missed his mark he paid for it with rapid fire counters. I still think Pac would fight alot better in the rematch, then again, I think Marquez would have trained better and would be in better shape. Pac is dangerous the whole 12 rounds. Marquez is a little less dangerous but can slowly beat you down during the course of the fight. I think this would actually be more exciting than a PAC/EM fight because it is a clash between pure opposites. One, a fighter that is brought to the top levels of the game by being an aggressive, powerful and relentlessly brilliant puncher; the other brought by his extremely masterful, tactical counter punching expertise. When extreme opposites collide it makes for a very interesting match up. Is Marquez' counter punching style enough to survive a savage puncher like Manny? Is Manny's powerful relentless attack enough to overcome a masterful technician? This is the fight.

if pac connects. the 1st fight marquez was caught by surprise. he didnt think it would pack so much power but after the 1st rd he adjusted to it and was never really hurt after that simply by doing what he does best, BOX! tru manny has the left hand and hes getting a right hand now but so do other fighters. i believe in marquez that when the time comes he will get the job done yet once again. i think hes waiting for pac to beat morales, though i dont see that happening, to fight him again since morales will never agree to fight jmm. smart move. either way they WILL fight again and jmm knows that.

IMHO JMM is the greatest challenge for PAC, even greater than EM ... It's because of his boxing style.....Pacman's style is tailor-made for Marquez.....but it doesn't mean that Pacman will not beat him.....afterall, Pacman has the equalizer, his great left hand. :) :) :)

I dont think MAB will beat Pac if they fight again. MAB's right hand doesnt come naturally to him as he is a lefty and it so happens thats the punch pacquiao is more open to. If you look at Barrera vs Pacquiao fight you can see that the little times he was effective against pacquiao was with a straight right hand, when he got popped by pacquiao he was relying on his left. who's fighting in your avatar bro?

I think JMM has a great skill and can effectively work against move forward fighters... however... he does'nt have the heart to take the level the game higher... he's just a good counter puncher... and that's it... he's the real one dimensional fighter... he's too careful not to mix it up with his opponents.... because he can't sustain it...

Let's see the 3M's styles. MABarrera - slugger/boxer/counterpuncher (has morphed more to become a laid back counterpuncher) EMorales - boxer/slugger (good boxer actually, but throws sweet science out of the window and just BRAWLS!) JMMarquez - counterpuncher (and a master at it!) They're all technically-gifted boxers basically, each one is a master of his own fighting style. IMO it's a matter of who-wins-against-who that determines the better fighter. JMMarquez-MABarrera - a tactical chess game. I give JMM a slight edge here IF MAB forces his way in. But, IF MAB chooses to box and ride his bike, he'll win JMMarquez-EMorales - styles makes fights. I reckon JMM will counterpunch EM all night as he tries to brawl. But, IF EM boxes & takes full advantage of his reach, he'll win.