Oscar & Shane will not dominate 147

DLT21y ago

You guys are living in the past if you think they will dominate everone. Oscar and Shane would have problems with Spinks, Judah, Mayorga, Floyd, Zoo, and probally Cotto, Margarito, and Cintron also. Oscar & Shane are both much older now and past their primes. Oscar hasnt really outright won a fight in a long time besides a washedup Vargas. He got KO by Hopkins, he really lost to Sturm, and he lost to Mosley. He is much slower and weaker now and that wasnt just because of the weight. He has become a more fragile fighter with Mayweather training him. Mosley lost 2 fights to Winky and 2 fights to Forrest so why do you think these guys will dominate these great fighters. They are much older now and they are lacking confidence. They werent even that great at 147 as you guys make it out to be. Mosley didnt beat 1 good fighter excepet for Oscar and the minute he stepped up he got destroyed by Forrest. Oscar at 147 also lost to Mosley, Tito, and really lost to Whitaker and I think he lost to Quartey so why do you keep acting like these guys were all world. Theres no way that they would just walk through Spinks, Judah, Mayorga, Floyd, and Zoo. Actually I would pick both of them to lose most of these fights. Both of them are very easy to hit now and neither has that great speed anymore. Another thing is 147 might be to small for them. They are both so fake. The whole time they were saying that theres no way they could make 147 again but now all of asuddend they act like it's a piece of cake. Give me a break. They will be better at 147 but I still dont think there good enough to beat the top guys I named on the first list and definatly not good enough to blow any of them away

Comments (20)

Tha_Greatest6475

ya DLH needs to go to 147 Mosley needs to go to 135-140(dont think he can make that)

21y ago

Tha_Greatest6475

ya Dlh Was Great At Welterweight!!!! He Only Lost To Mosley!!! Trinidad Win Was A Robbery!!!

21y ago

SonnyJ

Tszyu is a junior welter that hits as hard as a middle. if he went up to welter, at worst his power would be that of a junior middle, which puts him in the same field as the rest. why you wouldn't back him over anyone in these divisions i don't know. KT all the way.

21y ago

Eman

I dont think vargas is washed up, wasnt he just injuired? He did look pretty good against DLH in the beginning rds. I dont really think shane will dominate as much as DLh will. i think that if mayorga goes to 147 he will beat them both. DLh has to box like he did against trinidad to beat mayo and he really hasnt done that since that fight. theres also 4 or 5 guys that will give them plenty of competition.

21y ago

DLT

WASHED UP VARGAS? He was fucking 25!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why do you think that Vargas stop fighting? because he was washed up. Age doesnt have nothing to do with it. Tito ruined him. He hasnt looked worth shit since that fight. He got dropped in his first fight after that and when he fought Tony Marshall he looked like shit. I actually thought that Marshall had a good chance of beating him and that's sad because if you heard Marshall talk then you know that theres no way this guy should be fighting. He sounds worst than Meldrick Taylor

21y ago

DLT

man DLT you must really know what you are talking about, Damn how do you do it? De La Hoya landed 195 of 313 total punches (62%), while Gatti landed only 87 of 308 (28%). Gatti was down in the 1st round by an Oscar De la hoya Uppercutt and was stopped in the 5th. And both Gatti and PBF are 5'8" Gatti has 70" in reach while PBF has 72" I am not saying that DLH will KO/TKO PBF that fast,but it is likely,Last 2 guys that DLH KO/TKO was a juiced up Vargas and a Yori Boy Campas, both hard hitters and faced them in his last 5 fights Vargas was washed up and Campas was a 100 years old

21y ago

m00ks

21y ago

DLT

What size difference? There bigger but Floyd has been boxing bigger guys his whole life. He has a style where he can go up to the higher weights. If you think Shane and Oscar would dominate him and KO him then your crazy. Your just saying that because it's Oscar and Shane. If it was Forrest then you wouldnt say that he would KO Floyd but yet he destroyed Mosley and most had him favored to beat Oscar if they wouldve met. My point is that Shane wasnt as good as people thought. He lost at 147. People are acting like he didnt lose until he moved up to 154. He hasnt beaten one good fighter except for Oscar. If you think that Oscar will KO Floyd then your crazy. Gatti even looked good against a prime Oscar at 147 but he was too small. Now take a prime Mayweather against a past his prime Oscar and you think he will KO him. Gatti hit him way more then a great fighter should be hit

21y ago

Solo322

PBF @ 140lbs and DLh was @ 160, so that leaves 140,147,154 and 160, so yeah 3 division away, but now since both Dlh and Mosley will go back to 147 lbs, maybe PBF might get a chance to face one of them, DLH said he would never fight him,because of his trainer and Mosley, I am sure that mosley would beat PBF via KO/Tko, I'd agree, the size difference is just too much

21y ago

whdempsey

I think you're not quite right, but not entirely wrong either. They're both going to be more successful than they would at any other weight. But neither of them is going to be the champ he was before. Still, I would be De la Hoya or Mosley to beat both Judah and Spinks, and the list of contenders that you had up there included quite a few junior welters. Saying that in order to dominate a division you also have to beat everyone in the division below it is a little insane. Still, I see what you're getting at.

21y ago

Mr_Ryan

Me and you usally agree on most things so I wont argue with you. I dont think Spinks is the greatest fighter in the world but I dont see Mosley or Oscar blowing him away. I thought you were one of the few who are like me and like the boxing side of it. Mayorga was agressive but he was missing and hitting Spinks in the back of the head Hey, I enjoy a good boxer with science and all, I'm just saying it means nothing to beat Mayorga and Judah when you juxtapose it to the resumes' of De La Hoya and Mosley. Spinks makes Spadafora look like Gatti.

21y ago

DLT

I dont really like Morales. I will go for him unless he is fighting Barrera or some of the other top fighters in his weight. Right now im representing my Raza. Its all good man, I just thought you were hatin on Floyd a littile too hard

21y ago

DLT

Shane Mosley looked incredible against John John Molina, that was an incredible body shot he landed. DLH was so underzized at 154 and 160, I gave him a pass on some of his subpar performances. DLH was humiliating Tito until he self destructed. Losing to Whitaker, what a shame. I had Quartey with a 6-5 advantage going into the 12th, and DLH showed his championship heart in that round. Spinks benefitted from some questionable calls from the referee against Spinks. The hitting after the bell and the other deduction were bogus, and the "push" call n the 12th was actually a knockdown. Plus Mayorga was the aggressor, and that should've given him the edge in some of the nondescript rounds. Me and you usally agree on most things so I wont argue with you. I dont think Spinks is the greatest fighter in the world but I dont see Mosley or Oscar blowing him away. I thought you were one of the few who are like me and like the boxing side of it. Mayorga was agressive but he was missing and hitting Spinks in the back of the head

21y ago

Mr_Ryan

Did you see how good Mayorga did against Tito all the way at 160. Mayorga would probally knock Shane and Oscar out. Who has Shane beat except for Oscar? Name one good fighter, and not to mention he got destroyed twice by Forrest, and Winky. When was the last time Oscar looked good? He got KO by Hopkins, really lost to Sturm, lost to Mosley, beat a washed up Vargas but didnt look that good, lost to Tito, lost to Mosley, argubally lost to Quartey, and really lost to Whittaker. You act like these guys were dominating 147. The both left with 2 recent losses Shane Mosley looked incredible against John John Molina, that was an incredible body shot he landed. DLH was so underzized at 154 and 160, I gave him a pass on some of his subpar performances. DLH was humiliating Tito until he self destructed. Losing to Whitaker, what a shame. I had Quartey with a 6-5 advantage going into the 12th, and DLH showed his championship heart in that round. Spinks benefitted from some questionable calls from the referee against Spinks. The hitting after the bell and the other deduction were bogus, and the "push" call n the 12th was actually a knockdown. Plus Mayorga was the aggressor, and that should've given him the edge in some of the nondescript rounds.

21y ago

BrownBomber

Your just mad because Morales got his ass whooped and wouldve lost to Chaves if he had 2 hands I dont really like Morales. I will go for him unless he is fighting Barrera or some of the other top fighters in his weight. Right now im representing my Raza.

21y ago

DLT

Mayorga lucked out with Forrest, as Forrest wasn't as invincible as once thought. Judah is a complete idiot who is more interested in dancing and smiling than he is throwing punches. Mayorga and Judah aren't exactly Hearns and Leonard. Spinks hasn't beaten anyone yet. If he beats a DLH or Mosley, then I'll give him respect. Did you see how good Mayorga did against Tito all the way at 160. Mayorga would probally knock Shane and Oscar out. Who has Shane beat except for Oscar? Name one good fighter, and not to mention he got destroyed twice by Forrest, and Winky. When was the last time Oscar looked good? He got KO by Hopkins, really lost to Sturm, lost to Mosley, beat a washed up Vargas but didnt look that good, lost to Tito, lost to Mosley, argubally lost to Quartey, and really lost to Whittaker. You act like these guys were dominating 147. The both left with 2 recent losses

21y ago

Mr_Ryan

What's that suppose to mean? I know your not talking about Spinks like he doesnt have 2 huge wins Mayorga lucked out with Forrest, as Forrest wasn't as invincible as once thought. Judah is a complete idiot who is more interested in dancing and smiling than he is throwing punches. Mayorga and Judah aren't exactly Hearns and Leonard. Spinks hasn't beaten anyone yet. If he beats a DLH or Mosley, then I'll give him respect.

21y ago

DLT

I think I could beat Miguel Angel Gonzalez now. Thats what I think. What's that suppose to mean? I know your not talking about Spinks like he doesnt have 2 huge wins

21y ago

Mr_Ryan

I cant see it. Mosley is a great fighter but is overated because he looks furious when he swings but if you keep your guard up it wont hurt you and he has a horrible defense. I think Floyd wins this one. By the way what do you think of what I said about Shane and Oscar dominating? I think I could beat Miguel Angel Gonzalez now. Thats what I think.

21y ago

DLT

Trust me d if Castillo can rock his world Delahoya will do worst.I think Floyd lost both fights to Castillo the first one there was no way i HELL he won it.Delahoya would ko little Maywathear in 5 the most. Your just mad because Morales got his ass whooped and wouldve lost to Chaves if he had 2 hands

21y ago