Zab Judah was one of the most hyped of the Class of '96. He had the speed, the power, and the skills to be one of the greatest. Unfortunately, he lacked the discipline and the chin to be great. After winning the vacant IBF Junior Welterweight title, he went on a tear before running into Kostya Tszyu, who KO'ed the Brooklyn native in 2 rounds. After a failed campaign for a rematch with Tszyu, he moved up to welterweight to challenge the undisputed welterweight champ Corey Spinks. On the undercard of Klitschko-Brewster, he lost a close decision to Spinks. After 2 victories over nondescript oppostion, he finally gets his much anticipated rematch against Spinks. But what if Judah loses here? Where does he go? Would a change in trainers help him? Is Judah just wasted talent that will go unfulfilled?
If it goes to a decision Judah doesn't have a prayer, because the fans are going to react everytime Spinks throws a punch.
if it goes to a decision, expect a riot if Judah wins
gl getting a good seat and everything
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Originally Posted by onikami
Kostya's reign will come to an end at the hands of Hatton. I know it. Feel it. His time is up. 35 years of age. A great champion, yes. But the sun will set on him as a new king of the division claims his crown.
The king is dead. Long live the King.
Put down the crack pipe and slowly back away.
ya, tszyu will devour hatton 353 losses vs 118 losses. that is their opponent's records, for those that didn't read my thread earlier this month
Zab Judah was one of the most hyped of the Class of '96. He had the speed, the power, and the skills to be one of the greatest. Unfortunately, he lacked the discipline and the chin to be great. After winning the vacant IBF Junior Welterweight title, he went on a tear before running into Kostya Tszyu, who KO'ed the Brooklyn native in 2 rounds. After a failed campaign for a rematch with Tszyu, he moved up to welterweight to challenge the undisputed welterweight champ Corey Spinks. On the undercard of Klitschko-Brewster, he lost a close decision to Spinks. After 2 victories over nondescript oppostion, he finally gets his much anticipated rematch against Spinks. But what if Judah loses here? Where does he go? Would a change in trainers help him? Is Judah just wasted talent that will go unfulfilled?
what do you mean by if ?
he's gonna lose
After Judah loses he will go lose to Mayweather, then Gatti will get a shot at him and probably get messed up real bad,
Do you wanna bet i got judah 10k.
People have said that Kostya's reign will come to an end against this guy or that guy and that he didn't stand a chance against Judah or against Mitchell (either time!). He crushed both guys all three times. What more do you mental midgets need to see which can possibly prove anything but the obvious? The only person who can defeat Kostya Tszyu is Kostya Tszyu. When Hatton gets beat then you'll whine about Cotto or Gatti or whoever is up-and-coming. Go sit in the corner, shut your mouths and lick your wounds. Everytime Tszyu wins, he defeats everyone of his detractors and critics...by knockout.
Enough said.
Yeah yeah! Whatever. Why don't you post this on one of those nuthugger KT threads. This aint about Kostya, this is about Judah.
People have said that Kostya's reign will come to an end against this guy or that guy and that he didn't stand a chance against Judah or against Mitchell (either time!). He crushed both guys all three times. What more do you mental midgets need to see which can possibly prove anything but the obvious? The only person who can defeat Kostya Tszyu is Kostya Tszyu. When Hatton gets beat then you'll whine about Cotto or Gatti or whoever is up-and-coming. Go sit in the corner, shut your mouths and lick your wounds. Everytime Tszyu wins, he defeats everyone of his detractors and critics...by knockout.
Enough said.
People seem to forget that Zab is still young and can learn from his mistakes. He's got all the skills in the world. He has heart, he just needs a trainer who can push him to his limits and make him do the things necessary to make one a great fighter. I don't believe he will get that with his father. He may win this fight, but he needs an upper-echelon trainer to get him over the top.
I'm not at all a fan of Zab and loved seeing KT shut his big mouth, but I think that he is going to redeem himself to all his fans in this fight. He looks focused and I think he actually did learn something from the last fight. If he just keeps the presure on throughout I think it will be around a R9 or 10 KO. If he loses he will be the biggest waste of talent in recent boxing memory, and his mouth won't ever be able to convince the history books otherwise.
Zab was compared early in his career to a hybrid Whitaker-Tyson. Well, they forgot to equate Grant, as in Michael Grant into that synergy of talent. His chin isn't questionable, it's an outright liability. He lacks the heart and desire to become a great champ. Spinks is a very beatable fighter, but he is dedicated and gives it 100% every time out. I wish I could say the same about Judah.
Judah is overated
I remember they used to compare him to Sweet Pea, and even better because he had some pop in his punch.
The problem with Zab, is he's dumb, arrogant and immature . If he was smart enough to utilize the skills he has he would be great. Instead he's all about the "Bling Bling" life style and he carries that into the ring with him. Which is why he's lost 2 key fights in his carreer and will most likely lose the rematch with Spinks.
"You can get an idiot out of the ghetto, but you can't get the ghetto out of an idiot"
Zab has skills beyond almost any fighter you can think of today
Fine, then why doesn't he win? Why does he stand and pose with Spinks instead of flatten the Jinx? You tell me that. Why didn't he run through Rafael Pineda?
I seriously think Judah will be done as a serious boxing entity. He's got the guy to beat, everything seems to be in Judah's advantage, he just doesn't seem to have shat it takes to be an elite fighter.
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If Judah loses, King will recycle him like he's recycled Golota, so you Judah-lovers need not worry.
Judah can have potential match ups w/ DLH, Mosley, Margarito at 147. Cintron is too big IMO and Judah can always go back to 140.
I'am going to the fight, they are expecting a sell out (21,000). If it goes to a decision Judah doesn't have a prayer, because the fans are going to react everytime Spinks throws a punch.
Oddly enough, Ring Magazine's 2004 almanac said that Fernando Vargas, Oscar Larios, Corey Sanders, and Acelino Freitas had questionable chins. Zab Judah was the only fighter they said had a dubious chin. Zab really lacks focus. He lacks discipline. He is losing to fighters that he shouldn't lose to. He has all the talent in the world, he's a superior fighter. He just doesn't seem to have that special thing that turns talent into greatness. If he beats Spinks, we will see a 3rd fight. If he loses, Judah has to go back down and play those Kostya Tszyu bullshit games. The money isn't great enough for Spinks to go for a 3rd fight with Judah if he beat him twice. By that time, the winner of Margarito-Cintron will be in line for a fight.
He won't have to play Kostya "bullshit games" if he loses because if that happens Kostya will step up and fight Spinks for the titles. Kostya said he only wants BIG fights and if Zab loses again he wont be big enough for Kostya to take on again
wtf who said zab has a bad chin. he got dropped by tsyzu, big deal, did you not see the first round of their fight? so what, he got hit with a huge punch. other than that he's never been hurt, cory's kd of him was weak