Tito and Hopkins maybe in September

Wright is a good fighter but against TITO he's a joke. He Has NO Power whatsoever. He is purely a defensive fighter. Wright couldn't even KO Vargas in their fight and let's not mention that TITO Knocked him the %$#@ OUT!!! On top of all that who has Wright fought? Mosely and Vargas? COME ON!!!! Mosely got his ass handed to him by Forrest who is MIA! So all ya'll talkin that stuff bout how IF TITO gets passed Wright need to realize that your boy is going to get smoked. Wright can defend all he wants but there will be a blow that will find its way and then BAM....Who's next....B-Hop! FO SHO!!!!

Wow, a new excuse to add to the ledger. So far we have: 1) Trinidad was mad because Hopkins knocked a flag out of his hand. Therefore, he fought stupid. 2) 9/11 affected him too much to perform well. 3) He didn't think Hopkins - a man who dominated every opponent he faced for the last several years - was a threat. 4) Trinidad was a natural welterweight, despite the fact that he had killed himself to make 147 for years before he moved up to 154, and then became the only man to KO Joppy at 160. 5) He was beefing with his Papi because of a child out of wedlock. Keep them coming fellas. It'll be fun to see what imaginative things you'll come up with when Hopkins easily beats him again if they have a rematch. Big if considering he has to get by Wright first.

Hell Yeah!

Your Answer Why? Kborges, WHY? What has Tito shown you recently that would result in a different outcome? Come on, i want a detailed analysis of the factors and differences this time out that will result in that swarny little shit Tito beating the pound for pound king! Shit, Robert Allien won more rds vs Hopkins than Tito did, and he went the distance. Then again, Allien probably had that little bit more....desire! Here's Your answer: Tito's Dad stopped training him 2wks before the fight TWO WEEKS (because he was mad that tito had a child out of wedlock)! As his trainer and his father that definitely had an effect on the fight. That on top of haveing a baby out of wed lock is more than enough of a reason why Tito lost that fight. In every Tito fight his father slaps him in between rounds, do you know how many times Tito was slapped by his father in the Hopkins fight? NONE!!!! Think about that. Now this on top of him staying in New York during the whole 9-11 thing will prove why it will be a different outcome IF they fight again. I am NOT making any of this stuff up, It's all facts.

It is the victories aghainst every middlesweight he has faced since June 1993 that make Hopkins so great. No one has given him a comptetitive fight. What has Trinidad done in REMATCHES to suggest he`ll do any better? Nothing, because he has never had a rematch. Hopkins dominated Tito. And of course Hopkins was more effected by Sept 11th than Tito was. It was his country that was attacked, not Pueto Rico! Tito didn`t give two shits just as long as Don King paid him. I was routing big time for Hopkins first time, since America had been attacked, we needed a big American victory over a foriegn threat to boast the esteam of the people. I will always remember Hopkins after KOing Tito holding the American flag and chnting USA USA! He didn`t just fight for himself, he fought for America, America beat Trinidad that night, it showed that they have been down but it would get up and prove the impossible and KO that tit guy! That sort of heart can not be discounted. Hopkins also showed he was so much the better fighter! Ok are you saying that PR or tito is a foreign threat? cuz if your are your an just plain ignorant. Wasnt tito handing out food after 9/11 and not training? You cant say hopkins was more effected by 9/11 just cuz he is American and Tito is PR. Hopkins was the better fighter that night plain and simple and your right about that, no excuses. but you sound like a white trash racist bitch when you said America beat tito. Sorry if i offended you but ignorance upsets me

I think he looks to good to be true against small welters like Mayorga and old shot fighters like Joppy, but looks horrible against a real middleweight (Hopkins). Sad but true. Dont' believe the hype, just look at the facts. Viva Puerto Rico!!! im with you man.

why is this so hard to come to agreement on? whoever beats who is the better boxer. Trinidad lost to Hopkins. Plain and simple. So make up your mind if this makes Hopkins better or Tito worse.

I think he looks to good to be true against small welters like Mayorga and old shot fighters like Joppy, but looks horrible against a real middleweight (Hopkins). Sad but true. Dont' believe the hype, just look at the facts. Viva Puerto Rico!!! Your an idiot. When joppy fought trinidad he wasnt shot. Joppy wasnt he the 2nd best after b-hop in 01? How many times did b-hop fight Joppy? 2 or 3? When you make fun of tito for fighting a ww (who really isnt since mayo came in at 154 the fight before)shouldnt you really be making fun of b-hop since his 3 biggest wins are against a shot joppy and two ww? To many people discredit tito for losing at fight, what can you do when you lose to the best?? nothing but train harder.

The only thing Tito accomplishes against Tito in a rematch is a decent payday and a chance to shut up all his fans once and for all. It isn`t enough really, Hopkins should move to fight Tarver/Johnson winner instead. At least its fresh meat not old ground!

I think he looks to good to be true against small welters like Mayorga and old shot fighters like Joppy, but looks horrible against a real middleweight (Hopkins). Sad but true. Dont' believe the hype, just look at the facts. Viva Puerto Rico!!!

It is the victories aghainst every middlesweight he has faced since June 1993 that make Hopkins so great. No one has given him a comptetitive fight. What has Trinidad done in REMATCHES to suggest he`ll do any better? Nothing, because he has never had a rematch. Hopkins dominated Tito. And of course Hopkins was more effected by Sept 11th than Tito was. It was his country that was attacked, not Pueto Rico! Tito didn`t give two shits just as long as Don King paid him. I was routing big time for Hopkins first time, since America had been attacked, we needed a big American victory over a foriegn threat to boast the esteam of the people. I will always remember Hopkins after KOing Tito holding the American flag and chnting USA USA! He didn`t just fight for himself, he fought for America, America beat Trinidad that night, it showed that they have been down but it would get up and prove the impossible and KO that tit guy! That sort of heart can not be discounted. Hopkins also showed he was so much the better fighter! And a better gambler lol He bet 100 Gs on him

It is the victories aghainst every middlesweight he has faced since June 1993 that make Hopkins so great. No one has given him a comptetitive fight. What has Trinidad done in REMATCHES to suggest he`ll do any better? Nothing, because he has never had a rematch. Hopkins dominated Tito. And of course Hopkins was more effected by Sept 11th than Tito was. It was his country that was attacked, not Pueto Rico! Tito didn`t give two shits just as long as Don King paid him. I was routing big time for Hopkins first time, since America had been attacked, we needed a big American victory over a foriegn threat to boast the esteam of the people. I will always remember Hopkins after KOing Tito holding the American flag and chnting USA USA! He didn`t just fight for himself, he fought for America, America beat Trinidad that night, it showed that they have been down but it would get up and prove the impossible and KO that tit guy! That sort of heart can not be discounted. Hopkins also showed he was so much the better fighter!

First of all this have been a great thread guys.I'd like to give my personal opinion as well.Why are so many people underating Mayorga,a guy who beat Forrest 2/times who beat mosley two times who beat De La Hoya two times(controversial).Then if he is just a blow up welter wheight then Hopkin's biggest wins were against a blow up welter weight and a light weight warriors who were searching greatness????As far as Tito/DLH fight I thought it was a draw,no way in the hell Oscar won the first 9 rounds in a row just watch the fight without volume and be as objetive as posible,may be Oscar could have done a better job toe-to-toe he have a great chin and abilities to beat tito and vise versa. Well as far of legasy I don't think hop legasy is that great copared to oscar and tito.Almost 19 defenses,yes of course,against who??? allen echols,Mercado :rolleyes:.May be the lack of big names on all those fights were the reason of his late startum.Just think about it, the only big wins of nard were against tito and DLH.DLH and Tito opposition on the lower weights were far better than hop's.DLH had fought against the best in a lot of weight classes as well tito's. Lets be honest,if wasn't for the victories over tito and oscar who will be hopkins today,an unknow boring fighter who did 20's defenses against lesser opponents.Don't get me wrong nard is a guy who came over all odds and have what it take to beat either oscar or tito at 160 but this is boxing all can happen.Just my humble oppinion and if you ask me I'm fan of all those boxers(DLH,Nard,Tito Mayorga etc.)Just my oppinion based on the facts.

I see a repeat victory here by B-Hop....

I mean a real bet...not fantasy points... No real bet for me, BUT im willing to bet 10M for a Hopkins victory ;)

Tito Vs Wright, good fight. Hopkins Vs Tito, waste of our time, we saw this fight and in retrospect realizing Hopkins was so effected by the change of date due to 9/11, i think Hopkins will perform so much better next time out, he`ll have a bit more juice on the jab and probably stop the Pueto Rican in 8rds. Then Hopkins could target the winner of the Tarver Johnson rematch or maybe the light middleweights. The one thing that has upset me is that Hopkins is forced into these rematches with fighters who he gave one sided beatings to ( Echols, Allien, Trinidad etc) I want a fresh challenge for Nard, he has earned it! yeah, tito vs winky would be a good fight. and yeah, tito vs hopkins would be very different. tito out in 8 rounds, i don't think so. it would be more exciting than the first and i think tito pulls it out!! hopkins move up past 160? yeah fucking right!! not happening!!

Tito will KO Nard within 8rds...wanna bet? I'll bet you everything I own. However I highly doubt Tito will even take a rematch with Hopkins. He was so scared mentally from the last fight he left the sport completly

Tito will KO Nard within 8rds...wanna bet? No thanks bro. I'm not a betting man. I may change my mind though........ ask that Colonel guy who was talking shit to me, he's high strung, he might be down for a bet.

And if this fight does get made, mark my words, Bernard Hopkins KO's Tito Trinidad in Round 9

It's not good to idolize people? This coming from a guy who is pleading with Mandy Moore to marry him on a computer. What the fuck are you doing dip-shit. Your the same fucker who told me I had "way to much time on my hands" when I made a post connecting Randall to Ali, which took all of five minutes. You look like you've got more time on your hands (to go with you cock on your hand) than I do pal. By the way, I hope you don't think that faggoty little picture of you and that cheezy redneck mustache makes you look like some kind of a Don Juan. You God damn fucking looser. I hope I haven't offended you....Mr. Mandy Moore. I think its kind of obvious that the mandy moore thing is a joke. hence the( :D ). I didnt say you had too much time in a bad way. I thought it was cool what you did with that time line. No i dont think I'm a don juan, and I'm glad I'm not such an asshole (as yourself) that I have to talk shit to people on the internet. No it's not good to idolize people, because at some point in time they are going to let you down. Take some fuckin medicine you ill tempered jerk-off.