Who is the reason why you will watch Pacman/JMM2?

jmm will pick him apart in a rematch morales will throw it in the wind and go to war with pac

ok. to be fair with you. i dont discredit JMM for his heart and skills. i do give him credit on that. its just that the thought of JMM running away from a rematch with Pacman is just so frustrating for fans and you just couldnt expect those fans to give him credit for that. and we couldnt blame most fans if they would think JMM is being a chicken coz he just failed to prove he's not when he had the chance. Most fans? Don't think so. JMM will eventually get his fight with Pac and will also get a decent payday. Chicken just doesn't make sense, you saw him engage Pac while eating big leather. A Chicken would give us "no mas"? If Pac beats Morales (you never know what a big hitting Mexican can do) then JMM-Pac II will see Marquez with the lesser payday, as would be expected. No argument.

I dont think that JMM would just stand there and let Pac take pop shots at him all night long if both his hands were fine. He got knocked down 3 times in the first round, and then he made the proper adjustments...pac not knockign him down more the rest of the night had more to do with JMM figuring out his style, etc. and adjusting to it than it had to do with pac's supposedly hurt hands. Give the guy some credit..pac didnt land more cause JMM didnt let him.. ok. to be fair with you. i dont discredit JMM for his heart and skills. i do give him credit on that. its just that the thought of JMM running away from a rematch with Pacman is just so frustrating for fans and you just couldnt expect those fans to give him credit for that. and we couldnt blame most fans if they would think JMM is being a chicken coz he just failed to prove he's not when he had the chance.

Mooks. I meant Marquez outpointed him over the "remaining" rounds, not "swept" him in all 11. well then I'd agree. JMM did bank more rounds in the remaining eleven. I gave Pac the win cuz of the 10-6 first round which was a huge mountain for JMM to overcome. I do believe Pac did enough. Thanx for teh karma bro, one coming your way as soon as I can.

Mooks. I meant Marquez outpointed him over the "remaining" rounds, not "swept" him in all 11. like i said, i never saw JMM outpointing Pacman. otherwise, JMM could have won by points. but since it's a draw and Pac also could have won if it werent for an error in the score cards. JMM seemed to have been outpointed to me.

I think we've all acknowledged that. No one is taking away his heart effort and skills. Although I'll enevr see how JMM apparently "swept" Pac for the remaining 11. That's just giving JMM wayyy too much credit. Mooks. I meant Marquez outpointed him over the "remaining" rounds, not "swept" him in all 11.

I think we've all acknowledged that. No one is taking away his heart effort and skills. Although I'll enevr see how JMM apparently "swept" Pac for the remaining 11. That's just giving JMM wayyy too much credit. Mooks. You've acknowledged that, very few others have. Any hint of a PacMan criticism, and most people in this thread begin pissing on Marquez's performnace like he never belonged in that fight. Karma man, for giving JMM props for his obvious "heart, effort and skills".

OK Pac fans. Please stop would ya'? If we all agree that Pac got 3 very clean KD's against Marquez, which demonstrated his best attributes (i.e. speed and power in left hand)can't you also see that Marquez then outpointed Pac over the remaining 11 Rounds (using his best attributes: i.e. boxing skill)? sorry but i never saw JMM outpointing Pac that much rounds. maybe majority of the rounds is better ut not enough rounds to say he won by points. plus he played realy dirty when he intentionally attempted to give low blows many times. some were successfully blocked by Pac. those are done only by frustrated fighters. tell me, why do you think JMM be frustrating? answer?... coz he knows he's losing.

OK Pac fans. Please stop would ya'? If we all agree that Pac got 3 very clean KD's against Marquez, which demonstrated his best attributes (i.e. speed and power in left hand)can't you also see that Marquez then outpointed Pac over the remaining 11 Rounds (using his best attributes: i.e. boxing skill)? I think we've all acknowledged that. No one is taking away his heart effort and skills. Although I'll enevr see how JMM apparently "swept" Pac for the remaining 11. That's just giving JMM wayyy too much credit.

OK Pac fans. Please stop would ya'? If we all agree that Pac got 3 very clean KD's against Marquez, which demonstrated his best attributes (i.e. speed and power in left hand)can't you also see that Marquez then outpointed Pac over the remaining 11 Rounds (using his best attributes: i.e. boxing skill)?

exactly! the only reason he survived that in the first fight is coz Pac's left hand is no longer capable of giving KD's after the 2nd round. what do you think would happen to JMM if he recieved all of those from Pac's uninjured left hand? I dont think that JMM would just stand there and let Pac take pop shots at him all night long if both his hands were fine. He got knocked down 3 times in the first round, and then he made the proper adjustments...pac not knockign him down more the rest of the night had more to do with JMM figuring out his style, etc. and adjusting to it than it had to do with pac's supposedly hurt hands. Give the guy some credit..pac didnt land more cause JMM didnt let him..

WTF? All my colleagues are here!!! Why aren't you telling me you are on this site. PAC KOes JMM!!! Arum KOes JMM. Argh! fuk looks like bs is goin to start getting over run even more so by pac nutthuggers i mean testicle caressers its less offensive lol

Pacquiao, because as exciting as Marquez-Gainer was, I like Pacquiao a little more.

okay...thanks for your answer...take care. :) No problem..I enjoy debating with you cause youre never insulting! ;) A good quality

I still can't figure out why JMM allowed Pacquiao to again engage him toe to toe after rounds 3,4,5, and 6 where he thoroughly outboxed Pacquiao. Try to think of it deeper. In the rematch, they will be where they left off. Just like rounds 7-12 of their first fight. But one problem for Marquez is Pacquiao is becoming a natural featherweight and more powerful. In their 2nd fight, Pacquiao will be 10% more powerful. And if you take a look at their first fight, even the 1-dimensional Pacquiao gave Marquez a beating. Landing just 10 less punches than Marquez while landing the harder ones. That even a 10% deviation from their physical properties will give the other one troubles. Now, age is a factor now. Pacquiao can still get more powerful while Marquez will only keep his previous forms. Notice how Marquez was waiting for Pac's left straight before throwing his combos. That was the reason why Pacquiao landed a lot of left straights. Check the stats. And that reason alone is cause for concern. In the 2nd fight, Marquez will no longer be able to endure those punches before countering. If he try, he'll get knocked out quickly. exactly! the only reason he survived that in the first fight is coz Pac's left hand is no longer capable of giving KD's after the 2nd round. what do you think would happen to JMM if he recieved all of those from Pac's uninjured left hand?

This post pretty much sums up the Pac-Marquez II outcome. Full Stop. Manny has a style that has worked for him, including a few rounds with JMM. But, a boxer he 'aint and a boxer/counter monster JMM is. JMM late TKO or wide UD. Nuthiggers please recall that Pac let Marquez outpoint him after giving-up an early 10-6 (10-7?) round. That spells trouble when Marquez shows-up ready for fast hands but predictable "style". JMM in his first fight against Pacman was in full capability to do what he can do and yet havent done it. considering Pacman being half disabled. if he cant do it with a Pacman only half performing, there's no way he can do it with a 100% Pac.

jajajajajajaja :D Try to find a JMM fan in that juanmanuelmarquez.com site. Just try or better yet ask Top Rank how it was :D You want a Pac wagon, how about the Pac train in mannypacquiao.ph LOL when you try to be wiity and it backfires, you get comedy :cool: hehehe lolz... his not really knew what he talking about :D

jajajajajajaja :D Try to find a JMM fan in that juanmanuelmarquez.com site. Just try or better yet ask Top Rank how it was :D You want a Pac wagon, how about the Pac train in mannypacquiao.ph LOL when you try to be wiity and it backfires, you get comedy :cool: good shot m00ks!

WTF? All my colleagues are here!!! Why aren't you telling me you are on this site. PAC KOes JMM!!! Arum KOes JMM. Argh!

hopkins isnt exactly exciting niether is mayweather yet they are amoung the best fighters hopkins & mayweather may not be exactly exciting but they are not a total bore either ... i could see that there are several fans here at boxingsce and that's good to know but even the official JMM Site don't show enough of them ... so my question still stick, where are the JMM Fans ??? or just maybe his fans are not as passionate (nuthuggers), he he he ...