A tomato can legend!

Anyone remembers Paul "the Loser" Diver? There is a rumor that a new and improved Paul is considering a comeback after his retirement in 2005! More to come soon! :)

looks like archie moore

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Hoskins vs Diver maybe?

Hey, good calculation of Rocky's record. It always did seem strange that Rocky was supposedly washed up in Rocky I but then a great champion in III, IV & V Any real life comparisons? Hey thanks. :D As for real life comparisons, there aren't any as far as a ROCKY-like fighter coming out of nowhere & becoming THAT big of a star or that good of a fighter, with a long reign & engaging in MEGA fights like Balboa. That's pure Hollywood. But, there are incidents of fighters who began their careers with no acclaim & who struggled for years while building mediocre records before turning it all around & becoming world class fighters & champions. James Braddock who is the basis for the upcoming Russell Crowe film THE CINDERELLA MAN is an excellent example of just such an occurence. He began as a prospect at light heavyweight & even got a shot at the 175lb champion, but lost. Then he went on a losing streak & struggled at heavyweight before the new champion Max Bear came looking for an easy first title defense after winning the title by knocking out Primo Carnera. Braddock wasn't expected to go more than a couple of rounds against the power punching Bear, but exploited the champion's trouble with slick boxers & won a 15 round decision & the World Heavyweight Championship. It was & remained the biggest upset in heavyweight history until Leon Spinks win over in Ali in 1978. Another, more recent example of a huge, unknown underdog winning the heavyweight title was Mike Weaver who brought a suspect record of 18-9 into his opportunity against Larry Holmes in 1979.So, unimpressive was his record that ABC which was to telecast Holmes' third title defense on prime time TV, dropped those plans, depite the fact that chief undercard fight was the HIGHLY anticipated match up between Roberto Duran & Carlos Palomino! So, HBO stepped in & agreed to telecast the card. And got one of the fights of the year in the process. Which, suprisingly wasn't the Duran-Palomino match which was won by Duran in onesided fashion over 10 rounds, but the supposed "mismatch" between Holmes & the unknown Weaver. Weaver fought very aggressively & pressured Holmes throughout, even managing to drop the champion in the fourth round. Unfortunately for Weaver, the ref failed to call it a knockdown. "Hercules" forced Holmes to fight off the ropes for much of the contest & dug in many brutal bodyshots. Which, appeared to be taking their toll on the ,then, 31-0 Holmes who's expected long reign appeared to be in SERIOUS doubt as they battled into the scheduled 15 rounder's final third. Weaver dominated the 10th & was doing the same in round 11 as Holmes' legs looked unsteady as he took heavy punishment along the ropes. Then, out of nowhere, Holmes launched one of the very best punches of his career, a hellacious right uppercut that he seemingly brought up from the floor which nearly decapitated poor Weaver who fell flat on his back. "Hercules" showed an almost legendary amount of heart by getting back to his feet before the 10 count & hanging onto his balance until the bell rang. But, the one minute between the 11th & the 12th rounds wasn't nearly enough time for him to recover & a very weary, but determined Holmes retained his title by forcing the referee to end Weaver's challenge by rescuing him from a Holmes barrage of punches. Ending what was very nearly ROCKY like accomplishment for Weaver. BUT, just because it didn't happen against Holmes, didn't mean that it didn't happen at all... On the basis of his gallant stand against Holmes ( & a win over Scott Ledoux for the US title ), Weaver got another title shot, this time against unbeaten WBA champion "Big" John Tate. Again, Weaver was a significant underdog as Tate was a skilled boxer with heavy hands & held every physical advantage over the much smaller challenger. And, for 14 onesided rounds, it appeared as if Weaver's previous effort against Holmes was a "one off" performance against an unmotivated, under-prepared Holmes. He didn't look as if he belonged in a world title fight, much less a SECOND one! But, all that changed late in the 15th & final round as Tate backed into the ropes while just going through the motions of running down the clock enroute to his first successful title defense. When Weaver launched a short, compact brutally powerful left hook which caught Tate right on the button. Which rendered Tate unconscious immediately upon landing, causing his face first fall to the canvas to have an odd, almost surreal, slow motion quality to it. There was no need to count. The winner & new champion & the one who gave what I personally consider to be THE most ROCKY-like performance in real life, Mike "Hercules" Weaver.

Does your entire website have to be on a single page? There are sub-pages as well and the main page is not that long to load.

Thanks and good ideas! :D Of course I want to avoid repeating myself. Does your entire website have to be on a single page?

Hey, good calculation of Rocky's record. It always did seem strange that Rocky was supposedly washed up in Rocky I but then a great champion in III, IV & V Any real life comparisons?

As I see people were badly shaken by the legend's retirement...

hehe ok... hey was Rocky (from the movie rocky) a tomato can or considered one before he fought apollo???? (i know that not on topic but hey its just a q) To clarify, no the charecter of Rocky Balboa in ROCKY wasn't supposed to be a tomato can. He was supposed to be a faded, journeyman-type loosely based on former heavyweight contender Chuck Wepner. Unlike the charecter of Rocky though, Wepner was actually world rated at the time of his title opportunity against Ali in '75 & was coming off of a bit of a winning streak against some decent opposition. In ROCKY though, the Balboa charecter was far from being rated & was considered to be washed up & going nowhere despite scoring an upset KO over a fighter named Spider in the film's opening scenes. But, after an injury caused Apollo Creed's originally scheduled opponent to pull out of their "Bicentenial Bash" in Philly, Creed elects to pick a local fighter to defend his championship against in a kind of publicity stunt. Then, while searching through the RING record book, Creed picks Balboa based on his moniker of "The Italian Stallion". Later, during the prefight introductions, the ring announcer lists Balboa's record as being 44 wins 20 losses. Which, (if you're a freak for records like me, even fictional ones... :rolleyes: ) based on: - his L15 to Creed in ROCKY - his KO15 over Creed in ROCKY II - his 10 successful title defenses in the montage at the begining of ROCKY III, followed by his two bouts with Clubber Lang ( KO by 2, KO3 ) - Then his KO of Ivan Drago in ROCKY VI ... Would leave the charecter of Rocky Balboa with a final record of 57-22. Not too shabby for a fighter who was supposedly washed up & borderline "punchy in the first film & then had pretty much lost his eyesight in one eye in the second! :eek:

Paul "the Loser" Diver retires - it's not a rumour any more. If you wanna know how the former champ said goodbye to his fans, take a (last?) visit at his site: http://pauldiver.bravehost.com/ :)

Czyz is just the commentator for Hitz's TV show on the local Chicago sports Network called "punch Tv." Him and Mike North from the score radio station.

Bobby Czyz was not that bad, what an over statement to say he sucked. He became champion at both Lt heavyweight and cruiserweight. He was WBA cruiserweight champion and IBF light heavyweight champion at one time. He hosts a TV show now for Bobby Hitz in the Chicagoland area with Mike North. The guy also had a 16 year career. His first pro fight was in 1980 his last 2 pro fights were against Corrie Sanders {SA)in 1998 where he was KO'd in 2 and against Evander Holyfield in 1996 he was TKO'd in the 6th. He was still fighting champions 16 years into his career albeit being knocked out by them.

... Pretty sad.. Diver had to find a civilian work to make his living, check his official site for a heart-breaking photo!

..It seems that Paul does his best to stay on the headlines! Now he disclosed a secret love affair to the press, check his site if you wanna know more! :)

You guys should rather give motivation phone calls to Paul! He has lost his heart after his KO win and we can't get him to start training again...

Dear Dick, Do you not think you have gone a little too "far" by including Slipx's phone number in your signature? After all. I have been upset with his racist comments in the past, but I got over them. What exactly was it, that drove you off the wall. Do you really have that much hate towards an "Internet Boxing Forum Poster", or do you know him personally. As I speak not for everyone, I do understand this kind of behavior should not be tolerated.. Sincerely yours, RunwithKnives P.S.--that phone number does not seem to work. That or I have ran out of long distance minutes on my cell phone. I tend to agree. Even if Masterbator has got the number wrong, his inclination is uncalled for. I don`t dislike any poster on this forum, even MikeTysonJr and he`s a prick but we love him cos of his amusment factor. I think a joke can go so far. I`ve had rows on this site but nothing came of it, we tend to agree and dis - agree from time to time but no lasting fued. There has to be a line drawn somewhere!

Poor Paul. Dear Dick, Do you not think you have gone a little too "far" by including Slipx's phone number in your signature? After all. I have been upset with his racist comments in the past, but I got over them. What exactly was it, that drove you off the wall. Do you really have that much hate towards an "Internet Boxing Forum Poster", or do you know him personally. As I speak not for everyone, I do understand this kind of behavior should not be tolerated. Sincerely yours, RunwithKnives P.S.--that phone number does not seem to work. That or I have ran out of long distance minutes on my cell phone. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

Man i was laughing hard at that website keep up the good work. I laughed hardest at the weigh in of the Paul diver Versus the Hippo guy.When they were disgusted at the guys shape coming in looking like a bodybuilder lol. Good karma going your way man Thank you very-very much!! :p

Man i was laughing hard at that website keep up the good work. I laughed hardest at the weigh in of the Paul diver Versus the Hippo guy.When they were disgusted at the guys shape coming in looking like a bodybuilder lol. Good karma going your way man