I recently read an interesting article in a boxing magazine, and they explored the subject of fighters who have quit. Let's examine some fighters who have quit:
Acelino Freitas, who quit against Corrales.
Sonny Liston, who quit against Ali.
Willy Pep, who quit against Sandy Saddler.
Genaro Hernandez, who quit against De La Hoya.
Roberto Duran, who quit against Leonard.
Julio Cesar Chavez, who quit against De La Hoya.
Against Corrales, Freitas quit after tiring himself out by running around like an idiot and getting knocked down 3 times. I think it was bad to quit like that. Nothing seemed wrong there. I excuse Pep and Hernandez, as they just couldn't go on with their injuries. But Duran, Chavez, and Liston just couldn't be excused. Chavez' infraction will be overlooked because it was late in his career and was addicted to coke. What do you think?
its only ok to quit if ur life or long-term health is at stake. the case with tszyu and hatton: tszyu got his ass thoroughly kicked, his corner suggested that he quit, if he said "no" he probly would have been KOd or his corner would have stopped it anyway. i think that tszyu had a reasonable excuse to stay on his stool.
Best tactic is to look at the corner to make them stop it. when stopped make a case to the ref like it was premature stopping.
And thats usually exactly what happens too..what went down in Tszyu's corner was just confusing :confused:
lmao. Yup I'm the liar. You never threatened me at all. Hmm...Let's see what you did say:
"I am a grown man and am disabled but it's just back problems....keeps me from being able to work but would not keep me from smacking the snot out of a punk!...and I have heard yours (address) is available too!"
Hmm... Sounds like a poorly veiled threat to me. :confused:
And noooo you never mentioned court. Ooo wait a minute. What's this:
"I am saving this whole exchange. It is quite obvious who would be cupible in a court of law."
LMAO, give it up pussy fart. I expressed an opinion and never said a damn word to, or about you. You chose to start shit by calling me a "fat slob watching HBO or Showtime" simply because I disagreed with you. Easy lesson dumbfuck, you mess with the bull you get the horns.
And as for "believing what a MAN says" I'll remember that when i see a man speak.
If you are going to lie to the entire board, continuing is pointless. You know I never threatened anything....CERTAINLY not court! Don't be a complete liar AND fool.
Any of them can browse backwards and see who is at fault here.
Again..my kids are off limits. You would do well to believe what a MAN says when he talks seriously. I'm done.
Try that ignore feature B-dog...it's a real beauty! ;)
poor delusional bd. He pm's me begging me to quit picking on his brats. Crys about being a 51 year old crippled welfare recipient and then theatens to come to my house and fuck me up. I pm him back and warn him that i am prepared to protect my home and my family, and that he better think twice before getting his ass shot and leaving the little pig-fuckers fatherless and he threatens to take me to court. :rolleyes:
LMAO the internet tough-guy act really is humorous.
If you are going to lie to the entire board, continuing is pointless. You know I never threatened anything....CERTAINLY not court! Don't be a complete liar AND fool.
Any of them can browse backwards and see who is at fault here.
Again..my kids are off limits. You would do well to believe what a MAN says when he talks seriously. I'm done.
poor delusional bd. He pm's me begging me to quit picking on his brats. Crys about being a 51 year old crippled welfare recipient and then theatens to come to my house and fuck me up. I pm him back and warn him that i am prepared to protect my home and my family, and that he better think twice before getting his ass shot and leaving the little pig-fuckers fatherless and he threatens to take me to court. :rolleyes:
LMAO the internet tough-guy act really is humorous.
Well you COULD send me a pussy assed P.M. threatening to call the police like you just did, you toothless bastard! :D
What a joke! Tough guy Sonny! If I was you I would report pbds for posting your ugly-assed mug on the site too! :p
When boxers quit it gives the sport a black eye, and this is a sport that has already suffered enough negativity in the public eye.
In other sports athletes are banned for life for shaving points let alone throwing the match or game which is really what quiting in the middle of a boxing match is. I'm not saying a guy should have to give his life for the entertainment of the fans, but far more often a fighter is perfectly capable of continuing and just chooses to quit if he is humiliated (Duran) or feels he can't win. If a guy is in real danger of permanant injury the ref or doctor are going to stop the fight, or the guy is simply going to go down for the count.
This is an internet boxing thread and it's purpose is to elicit a range of opinions. I have an open mind and although i have strong opinions on many subjects i generally respect the opinions of others. Especially when they are stated in a logical and intelligent manner. It's the closed minded, inbred dumbfucks like bd who feel the need to insult other posters for simply disagreeing with him.
I think it is ok for a fighter to quit. As a fan I hope it never happens, but I am totally ready to accept the fact that fighters quit.
The idea of a paycut is not bad but it cannot be implemented, because then promoters will look for all excuses not to pay fighters, and what would you do if the corner stops the fight??
There is nothing morally wrong in quitting, boxing is a sport, and ideally should not be driven by the public, but by those who are doing it
Santino,
You dare knock a working class man who's loyal to his family? Eat shit and die lowlife. One day you're going to get the shit knocked out of you and it will be for the better. Might even teach you a bit of humility if you aren't knifed or shot.
This is of course assuming that you would even have the balls to say these things to a man face to face.
wtf are you talking about? Take some reading comprehension lessons and then get back to me. :dunce:
And just for the record.....
I am raising 5 by myself . I guarantee that you would never have lasted these past 7 1/2 years doing it.
It has taken a MAN!
Just one of the many, many good qualities you have B-dog, which I greatly admire. Raising kids can be tough, and youre raising them all on your own..very commendable ;)
I would say yes if you are really hurt or generally in bad shape...I think you should continue if you can though..not quit because you think you may be behind on the scorecards (after all we all know how fucked the scoring in boxing can be)
As with all things in life, it's a case by case situation.
Any thinking adult can see that and unfortunately that omits a few of the posters here...not many but a few.
There are some instances in which quitting isn't cool, but it's acceptable. In the Kostya Tszyu-Ricky Hatton fight, I didn't like it, but Tszyu kept it real. He knew what we all knew, that he wasn't going to win this fight with his inactivity and advanced age.
I don't think that there should ever be a need for a fighter to quit, particularly if you and your team have good communication. In the Freitas-Corrales fighter, Suarez should've been able to read his fighter's body language and should've stopped the fight himself. I'm reminded of Raul Marquez' corner in the Jermain Taylor fight. That is a team that knows whats happening, and was able to protect their fighters health, as well as his dignity.
Santino,
You dare knock a working class man who's loyal to his family? Eat shit and die lowlife. One day you're going to get the shit knocked out of you and it will be for the better. Might even teach you a bit of humility if you aren't knifed or shot.
This is of course assuming that you would even have the balls to say these things to a man face to face.