Manny Pacquiao=Poor HBO Ratings? Wtf?

holy crap evo is back! anyway...yeah pac was not weell known..but is now..so point is..this time around he will get a better rating no matter what...he is exciting (thats true)...

once again im not talkin about being amazin skill wise we all know he can fight i was talkin about an amazin draw becuz we were talkin about him being a household name dats all i was sayin hes nothin amazin in being a house hold name got yah...nice reply. :)

hey, moron! no matter how much you try to make excuses for this words ---> (like any other hes nothing amazing yet against Pacman, you still sounded like a newbie in boxing. i was not commenting on all your arguements except for that part of your comment. now, if you think by calling someone bitch or idiot would make you look like you know something, then maybe you can add more in every posts you make coz i can see that that is where you get your self-esteem. i can clearly see how you got educated and how you get your knowledge... :cool: lmao what a nerd i aint even respnden to your fruity ass post like this no more

give pac another year and a fair chance to beat the 3m's...then he will not only be amazin to you but to all latino boxing followers as well! feliz navidad amigo! :) once again im not talkin about being amazin skill wise we all know he can fight i was talkin about an amazin draw becuz we were talkin about him being a household name dats all i was sayin hes nothin amazin in being a house hold name

holy shit its the pac nut hugger its back...... bitch i didnt sayin he wasnt excitin jus that hes not a household name we arent arguring if boxing fans know him ofcourse we do u idiot were talkin about reg casual fans people who watch boxing every now and then they dont know him like any other hes nothing amazing yet and i meant he doesnt grab reg peoples attention amazing in his drawin power give pac another year and a fair chance to beat the 3m's...then he will not only be amazin to you but to all latino boxing followers as well! feliz navidad amigo! :)

holy shit its the pac nut hugger its back...... bitch i didnt sayin he wasnt excitin jus that hes not a household name we arent arguring if boxing fans know him ofcourse we do u idiot were talkin about reg casual fans people who watch boxing every now and then they dont know him like any other hes nothing amazing yet and i meant he doesnt grab reg peoples attention amazing in his drawin power hey, moron! no matter how much you try to make excuses for this words ---> (like any other hes nothing amazing yet against Pacman, you still sounded like a newbie in boxing. i was not commenting on all your arguements except for that part of your comment. now, if you think by calling someone bitch or idiot would make you look like you know something, then maybe you can add more in every posts you make coz i can see that that is where you get your self-esteem. i can clearly see how you got educated and how you get your knowledge... :cool:

man! you talk like you know nothing about boxing. if you know boxing specially the featherweight division, you will not be calling Pacman, "like any other hes nothing amazing yet?!" if you know boxing, in a single fight you would know if the guy has nothing or has something. but in the case of Pacman, its pretty obvious that anybody who watched him can tell that he is an exciting fighter. i dunno what kinda viewer would not think so... holy shit its the pac nut hugger its back...... bitch i didnt sayin he wasnt excitin jus that hes not a household name we arent arguring if boxing fans know him ofcourse we do u idiot were talkin about reg casual fans people who watch boxing every now and then they dont know him like any other hes nothing amazing yet and i meant he doesnt grab reg peoples attention amazing in his drawin power

then hes not a house hold name is he? no hes a fighter who has his fans just like any other hes nothin amazin yet ur not helpen manny hes a household name in da filipines, jersey city, and san francisco lmao man! you talk like you know nothing about boxing. if you know boxing specially the featherweight division, you will not be calling Pacman, "like any other hes nothing amazing yet?!" if you know boxing, in a single fight you would know if the guy has nothing or has something. but in the case of Pacman, its pretty obvious that anybody who watched him can tell that he is an exciting fighter. i dunno what kinda viewer would not think so...

Manny may not be a household name...but really...in each sport theres maybe a handful of "household names" (i consider it a household name when a person not interested in any sport knows one of its players)...soccer has 1 (beckham) golf 1 (tiger)...NBA...maybe about 5...in boxing right now...MAYBE 2 with Roy Jones and De La Hoya... To people complaining about low ratings....as a person that works for an advertising agency...all i have to say is promotion=ratings. what the hbo guy was saying is a thing of the past. manny is more well-known now not only in the u.s. but in the major continents of the world. off course they wouldn't tell you that manny's popularity is on the steady rise, becasue it would out his company at a disadvantage and will give credence to manny's insistence of getting a higher purse. his comment was therefore to protect hbo's interest (and murad's) and didn't account of the recent events sourrounding pacman. but this is the fact, pacman is an asset to hbo and that's the reason why they are putting their money on manny. imho, pacman is one of the most exciting fighters at present and perhaps the only truly one who enjoys fighting on top of the ring no matter who the opponent is (within his weight class).

Manny may not be a household name...but really...in each sport theres maybe a handful of "household names" (i consider it a household name when a person not interested in any sport knows one of its players)...soccer has 1 (beckham) golf 1 (tiger)...NBA...maybe about 5...in boxing right now...MAYBE 2 with Roy Jones and De La Hoya... To people complaining about low ratings....as a person that works for an advertising agency...all i have to say is promotion=ratings.

well i neva called jmm, em , or mab household names id say more general boxing fans know them but not casual boxing fans what are you planning with your 29M, if your planning to give it away, i am always willing to receive some, he he he...

well i neva called jmm, em , or mab household names id say more general boxing fans know them but not casual boxing fans i never said you did... but its true that MAB & EM are big names in boxing, thats the reason they are getting that much money for their fights (3M each?)and the way for PAC to be bigger is to beat Erick first, then beat MAB again.... but to do this PAC has to get pass JMM first...

yeah get what you guys mean, but it will take a lot before any figther to be household name say ALI, TYSON, DELAHOYA.... even guys like Morales & Barerra are not household names but big names for boxing fans.... PacMan is very popular to boxing fans now but to get more recognition he should first beat JMM then, EM and re-match MAB .... well i neva called jmm, em , or mab household names id say more general boxing fans know them but not casual boxing fans

see rick gets what im sayin hes known well u filipinos but hes not yet household everyoens household not just filipino households ok now i know your point here... some good karma for the good post... :D look at your points

yeah get what you guys mean, but it will take a lot before any figther to be household name say ALI, TYSON, DELAHOYA.... even guys like Morales & Barerra are not household names but big names for boxing fans.... PacMan is very popular to boxing fans now but to get more recognition he should first beat JMM then, EM and re-match MAB ....

People make a mistake when they think that just because a person is a certian nationality, they know a certain fighter. I have a filipino family living next door and they barely heard of Pacquiao and have never watched him fight or Boxing for that matter. I know plenty of Mexicans who know Chavez, they know Trinidad BUT...they have no idea who Morales, Barrera or JMM is. I know hordes of Russians that never heard of Jirov, Tszyu, Salita or even the Klitschkos. There is a big difference between a household name outside the U.S. and a household name within the U.S. You round up all the Filipinos in America, subtract the number of those who know Pacquiao and then subtract the number of those who actually watch him fight. You can now see why the ratings are not as high. Don't get me wrong, the "CASUAL" boxing fan could care less about JMM, Barrera or Morales as well. It is the "CASUAL" fan that makes a fighter cross over from a general name to hardcore fans like us, to a household name. Lennox, De La Hoya, Jones, Tyson, Holyfield, Trinidad are known by CASUAL fans, the people that buy a pay per view once a year or watch one televised event a year and that is why these fighters had/have so many pay per view matches and make so much more money. see rick gets what im sayin hes known well u filipinos but hes not yet household everyoens household not just filipino households

People make a mistake when they think that just because a person is a certian nationality, they know a certain fighter. I have a filipino family living next door and they barely heard of Pacquiao and have never watched him fight or Boxing for that matter. I know plenty of Mexicans who know Chavez, they know Trinidad BUT...they have no idea who Morales, Barrera or JMM is. I know hordes of Russians that never heard of Jirov, Tszyu, Salita or even the Klitschkos. There is a big difference between a household name outside the U.S. and a household name within the U.S. You round up all the Filipinos in America, subtract the number of those who know Pacquiao and then subtract the number of those who actually watch him fight. You can now see why the ratings are not as high. Don't get me wrong, the "CASUAL" boxing fan could care less about JMM, Barrera or Morales as well. It is the "CASUAL" fan that makes a fighter cross over from a general name to hardcore fans like us, to a household name. Lennox, De La Hoya, Jones, Tyson, Holyfield, Trinidad are known by CASUAL fans, the people that buy a pay per view once a year or watch one televised event a year and that is why these fighters had/have so many pay per view matches and make so much more money.

i am in san francisco..and if ur not asian..know one knows him..i am latino and know him cuz i love boxing..but (blacks-white-and latinos) dont really know him well

no no he isnt boxing fans know him thats not a household name house hold names are guys that people know, even if they dont know a thing about boxing Amigo, I think we have different meanings for the term "household name". We'll never get to agree on anything using this term. So I'll leave you to your own opinion.

wtf? howd ya guys arrive at the conclusion that hbo dont like manny or dont think hes good for the sport they fukin love him hes great for the true fans all they are sayin is Hey doesnt appeal to the regular person, yet.. u guys are fukin krazee its not hbos fault this fight was promoted same as any other it just didnt grab peoples attntion not cuz hbo didnt want them to watch but becuz both manny and marquez are new new in a division ruled by barrera and morales atleast back then for a rare moment I agree with abdiel :D