after watching Peter i couldn't help but wonder if he is a Foreman in the making. When George 1st started out alot of people didn't think he would make it because he was so big and considered to be slow. but we all know how he ended up. If peter can show to have a good chin i don't see why he couldn't due the same. Please don't get me wrong i'm not saying that he is as good as foreman, but his career is still young, what do you think.
In a rematch, I would still pick Williams by late knockout.
At 6'1, 250, the guy is a tank, but to be a champion, you have to do more than just posess power.
Foreman was not that big during his first carrer, I think he was about 230, but he had better skills than Peter, and a gameplan that Peter should aspire to.
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Williams would never step back in the ring with Peter, and for that matter any other top flite competition.
You say Foreman was not that big in his first career, you could not be more wrong.
the defintion of "big" in the heavyweight division has changed drastically since the 70's.
In his first career, George Forman was bigger and physically more dominant than all the other premier heavies. he was taller, he was stronger, 250 pounders were unheard of at the highest level.
Foreman wouyld literally push people around the ring. it would be interesting to see how young george would be refereed in this day in age, chances are his style wouldve been made to drastically change.
he would not have been able to push the new age of heavyweight around. imagine his trying to shove 6'7 250 lb vitali out of the way like he was joe frazier.
all in all i guess my point is this.
though Sam Peter is literally bigger than the early george foreman, he isnt actually as big because the size of heavys has grown so much....
before George KO'd frazier he was doing the same to lesser comp, but no one gave him a chance against frazier.
True, kinda. he was fighting lesser comp than a frazier, ali or norton. he did KO George Chuvalo, who though not a great boxer, could take a punch like no other. he also defeated Peralta twice, also not a great boxer, but a smart fighter and more of challenge than a taurus sykes
he was fighting much better comp than peter has at this point.
hmmmmm
its a bit early to say much about peter.
he has devestating power, and i dont think wlad cant take it if he lands clean.
that beeing said foreman was better in all aspects, taller,better power, faster, better footwork.
and foreman won the ol.
and that says a lot cause foremann wasnt exactly a slick fighter.
his chin i dont know about, but we will know soon.
the winner off wlad-peter should fight brewster, both alternative fights would be great.
if he develops a solid jabb he can be kinda like liston.
after watching Peter i couldn't help but wonder if he is a Foreman in the making. When George 1st started out alot of people didn't think he would make it because he was so big and considered to be slow. but we all know how he ended up. If peter can show to have a good chin i don't see why he couldn't due the same. Please don't get me wrong i'm not saying that he is as good as foreman, but his career is still young, what do you think.
You must be kidding, right?
One thing for sure is that Danny Williams is new Ali, or so some British gentlemen believe.
In a rematch, I would still pick Williams by late knockout.
At 6'1, 250, the guy is a tank, but to be a champion, you have to do more than just posess power.
Foreman was not that big during his first carrer, I think he was about 230, but he had better skills than Peter, and a gameplan that Peter should aspire to.
For Peter to be legit, he needs to fight a "cutesy" fighter that is not going to trade with him. He also needs a fight with a fighter with serious pop that will test his chin.
I propose a fight with James Toney, then a fight with Tua.
Foreman was in much better shape, and could throw beautiful straight shots-just a much better boxer then Peter is.
Peter may be an exciting prospect and one more win against a top 15ish person will put him into the top 10 but let's not go overboard with one early rd KO over a guy who's never taken a great shot . . .
Foreman was bigger than just about everyone he fought. Peter isn't, & won't be.
George had a great jab....& his enormous strength advantage helped him push guys off of him with ease.
Peter does not have any kind of jab, & will not manhandle guys like Foreman did.
This guy isn't worthy of the grease drippings off of a Foreman Grill !
after watching Peter i couldn't help but wonder if he is a Foreman in the making. When George 1st started out alot of people didn't think he would make it because he was so big and considered to be slow. but we all know how he ended up. If peter can show to have a good chin i don't see why he couldn't due the same. Please don't get me wrong i'm not saying that he is as good as foreman, but his career is still young, what do you think.
i know what ur sayin
and its a possibility
but id say a very far strecth of a possibility
george was truly one of the greats
he was somethin special in his own right
but i doubt he'll be the next george foreman
more then likely as our hw prospects have ended up
he'll be the next micheal grant
Yeah that shit got me nervous for a second, I thought maybe he was dead lol. I just don't know what the fuck Jeremy was thinking, dropping his hands like that, knowing this guy's only asset at this point is his power, and Jeremy was pretty much having his way, no doubt Peter was getting pissed lol.
yeah i know, that was pretty dumb, although i can't say i was sad, it's a part of boxing.
Yeah that shit got me nervous for a second, I thought maybe he was dead lol. I just don't know what the fuck Jeremy was thinking, dropping his hands like that, knowing this guy's only asset at this point is his power, and Jeremy was pretty much having his way, no doubt Peter was getting pissed lol.
i don't know about his chin, i can't see anyone standing after that shot. if u look at frazier we all now he has a great chin, and no one argues that because everyone also knows that foreman has an even greater punch.
by the way, it must have been nice for you to see him get his ass KTFO after what he said to u
I was actually scared for him when he went down, that looked ugly. Regardless of my personal feelings, I never want anyone hurt. After I heard he was ok...I cracked a little smile ;)
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Williams has always had one of the weakest chins in the heavyweight division. I spoke with him on a radio show in so cal a fews years back and told him I thought his chin would be his downfall and he would never be champ. He of course threatened to kick my ass and said he could sure as hell knock me out. My reply was..your probably right, but I'm not a Heavyweight professional boxer.
Half Chin/Half idiot
i don't know about his chin, i can't see anyone standing after that shot. if u look at frazier we all now he has a great chin, and no one argues that because everyone also knows that foreman has an even greater punch.
by the way, it must have been nice for you to see him get his ass KTFO after what he said to u
BINGO
Williams has always had one of the weakest chins in the heavyweight division. I spoke with him on a radio show in so cal a fews years back and told him I thought his chin would be his downfall and he would never be champ. He of course threatened to kick my ass and said he could sure as hell knock me out. My reply was..your probably right, but I'm not a Heavyweight professional boxer.
Half Chin/Half idiot
Well, after Sat night it looks like you got the last laugh :D
I have to see Peter in there with a top ten guy, before I make a Judgement. I have feeling a guy like Byrd or Toney would make him look loke a Amatuer.
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Williams has always had one of the weakest chins in the heavyweight division. I spoke with him on a radio show in so cal a fews years back and told him I thought his chin would be his downfall and he would never be champ. He of course threatened to kick my ass and said he could sure as hell knock me out. My reply was..your probably right, but I'm not a Heavyweight professional boxer.
Half Chin/Half idiot
At this point, I wouldn't get too excited about a ko over Williams. It's nice to see a guy showing signs of being a potential contender. I'll hold judgement until I see more
I cant agree with you more. The KO was indeed impressive and I would consider him the best heavy prospect in the game (especially since Guinn lost) but I still think he has a way to go before he is a real threat