People try to say that Floyd hasnt faught anyone when he really has one of the best resume's out their. Go compare his to Zoo's and Hopkins and you tell me who has the better opposition. Hopkins has faught all bums besides a smaller Tito and a DeLahoya who had really lost to Sturm the fight before and Mosley the fight before that. Zoo hasnt faught anyone. He was knocked out by Phillips, and people give him so much credit for beating guys like Tackie and a old Leja, a old Chaves, a old Mayweather. The only good guys he ever beat were Mitchell and Judah. These guys are overated. Who has Mitchell ever beat. They say he's been on a role because he beat Tackie, Phillips, Stewart, and Urkal. He got KO by Stevie Johnston and Levander (I forgot his last name). Mitchell was so hyped for nothing it's sick. Who has Judah ever beat but bums also. Judah is one of my favorites but he hasnt beat anyone. If you guy's dont believe me then go check all these guys boxing records and opponents and you will see there no comparison to who they faught and the guys Floyd faught like: Corley, Sosa, Castillo twice, Jesus Chaves, Carlos Hernandez, Corrales, Justin Jukko, Carlos Rios, Emanuel Augustus, Goya Vargas, Angel Manfredy, and the legendary Genaro Hernadez for the title when he was just 21. All these guys were at the height of their carrers when Floyd faught them. I think alot of people need to stop questioning Floyd. Frietas wouldnt fight him, Hatton wouldnt fight him and Gatti was suppose to fight him nearly a year ago
Floyds resume under 140 is great at 140 not so great but damn he just got there. His first fight he whopped chop chop. He will fight gatti (i think its a good move against a legit champ) then fight some more big names like Zoo. Floyd can beat anyone his speed, defence, and conditioning can carry him against anyone. Zoo would be his toughest challenge and it will happen in due time.
It only matters what they've done at 140 lbs and PBF has done next to nothing. End of story.
Name one fighter besides Zoo who has done better and he has been there foreva so stop hatin
if floyd wants to fight gatti because its more money, that's fine, i never said there was anything wrong with that....
my point is, if he does, it wont impress me or make me think he's ready for tszyu.... right now i rank floyd behind tszyu and harris
I'd have to say Floyed is ready for anyone in the world right now. KT, Cory Spinx, Shane Mosley it dont matter. Not that they are all sure victories but I think Mayweather is fighting at his best and would give anyone a run for their money.
I am not comparing Tszyu's career to Floyd's.
He's at 140, fight the man at 140 that's all. When did I say he was scared of Tszyu? Are you having second thoughts about Floyd fighting Tszyu? Anyways, Tszyu doesn't talk crap... he's not that kind of guy.
I really do hope Floyd fights all those guys in that order you just listed.
You know that Im not having second thoughts. Ive always said that I would easily pick Floyd against Zoo because I happened to think that Zoo's style is made for Mayweather. All Im sayin is that if Zoo was on HBO and had Gatti's rep then all you would hear Floyd talk about was Zoo. They both have big money fights in June and after that you know all that anyone will talk about is Zoo vs Floyd so I think it will happened
I am not comparing Tszyu's career to Floyd's.
He's at 140, fight the man at 140 that's all. When did I say he was scared of Tszyu? Are you having second thoughts about Floyd fighting Tszyu? Anyways, Tszyu doesn't talk crap... he's not that kind of guy.
I really do hope Floyd fights all those guys in that order you just listed.
Only time will tell.
I honestly think, he only cares about the money right now. If Floyd never fights Tszyu and I'm talking about Tszyu this year, not waiting for Tszyu to get old. It will be a shame because that could've been a great win in Floyd's career. Tszyu has made his mark as one the best ever at 140, dare to be great Floyd.
How can you all keep sayin this when Floyd just got to 140. On Boxing Talk he just said that he wants Gatti, then Zoo, and the Oscar or Shane. Every boxer wants the money. Zoo never says shit about Floyd but all everyone on here says is that Floyd is scared of Zoo. Zoo has been at 140 his whole career and Floyd is in his 4th division and only had 2 fights and everyone keeps putting all the pressure on him like he's scared or something. Who has Zoo ever beat and how come you never told Zoo to move up to 147 to fight Oscar, Shane, Forrest, Spinks, and Mayorga to be great. Tszyu is way older and still hasnt moved up. Floyd has done more the Zoo
Only time will tell.
I honestly think, he only cares about the money right now. If Floyd never fights Tszyu and I'm talking about Tszyu this year, not waiting for Tszyu to get old. It will be a shame because that could've been a great win in Floyd's career. Tszyu has made his mark as one the best ever at 140, dare to be great Floyd.
What have you done for me lately?
Floyd is at 140 now, fight the big boys. Gatti is worthless.
Besides that I dont think people give him enough credit for the Corley win. Corley was a champ and a top 5 fighter. He only recently lost to Floyd and Zab. How many guys wouldve beaten them. Alot of people will be suprised when Chop fights Cotto
What have you done for me lately?
Floyd is at 140 now, fight the big boys. Gatti is worthless.
You have to read all of my post. I agree that Gatti isnt the best but he has to fight Gatti first because he brings the money and the fame. He can make the most money and get on PPV fighting Gatti. If he fights Harris or Hatton or Cotto now it wouldnt be for much money and it wouldnt be on PPV. The Zoo fight might be on PPV but it wouldnt make that much money. After he fights Gatti all of those other fights become bigger so thats why he wants Gatti. If Zoo or Harris made the most money, you dont think he would be trying to fight them first?
People try to say that Floyd hasnt faught anyone when he really has one of the best resume's out their. Go compare his to Zoo's and Hopkins and you tell me who has the better opposition. Hopkins has faught all bums besides a smaller Tito and a DeLahoya who had really lost to Sturm the fight before and Mosley the fight before that. Zoo hasnt faught anyone. He was knocked out by Phillips, and people give him so much credit for beating guys like Tackie and a old Leja, a old Chaves, a old Mayweather. The only good guys he ever beat were Mitchell and Judah. These guys are overated. Who has Mitchell ever beat. They say he's been on a role because he beat Tackie, Phillips, Stewart, and Urkal. He got KO by Stevie Johnston and Levander (I forgot his last name). Mitchell was so hyped for nothing it's sick. Who has Judah ever beat but bums also. Judah is one of my favorites but he hasnt beat anyone. If you guy's dont believe me then go check all these guys boxing records and opponents and you will see there no comparison to who they faught and the guys Floyd faught like: Corley, Sosa, Castillo twice, Jesus Chaves, Carlos Hernandez, Corrales, Justin Jukko, Carlos Rios, Emanuel Augustus, Goya Vargas, Angel Manfredy, and the legendary Genaro Hernadez for the title when he was just 21. All these guys were at the height of their carrers when Floyd faught them. I think alot of people need to stop questioning Floyd. Frietas wouldnt fight him, Hatton wouldnt fight him and Gatti was suppose to fight him nearly a year ago
I wanted all of you to look at this again since Im once again hearing alot of disrespect about Floyd's opponents. And who else was he suppose to fight tonight. He was suppose to fight Gatti for over a year now and he keeps avoiding Floyd. Hatton and Gatti have already turned him down. He cant fight Zoo yet because there isnt enough money in it right now for the different networks. Maybe after the Gatti PPV fight. Cotto's people wont put him in with Floyd yet. The only one he couldve fought is Harris and if he did then he would lose the #1 contender spot in the WBC for a big money PPV fight with Gatti and trust me if Gatti doesnt have to fight him then he wont. So stop hatin because he has one of the best resumes out there
i like gatti, he's really fun to watch and i know mcgirt has ressurected his career and all, but i dont think he could beat tszyu, harris, floyd or even cotto....
if floyd wants to fight gatti because its more money, that's fine, i never said there was anything wrong with that....
my point is, if he does, it wont impress me or make me think he's ready for tszyu.... right now i rank floyd behind tszyu and harris
Did you see what I wrote on the last page about Harris. I think it's post #29. Anyways Guru, we shouldnt be argueing about this Gatti thing because we are on the same page. I wrote a thread about a week and a half ago called "Warrior Gatti" were I talk about how I think he's a fraud. If I can find it, I'll try to pull it up for you because I know you will love it
if floyd wants to fight gatti because its more money, that's fine, i never said there was anything wrong with that....
my point is, if he does, it wont impress me or make me think he's ready for tszyu.... right now i rank floyd behind tszyu and harris
I'm not trying to disrespect Harris. He is one of my favorite fighters but we still dont know how good he really is. I saw the Hurtado fight and he didnt even really hit Hurtado. The guy was a shot fighter. He barley landed a clean punch and he was down and when he stood up he was wabley. Urkal is older now. The guy isnt the same fighter he used to be. Right now Urkal is just a stepping stone and Harris was defeated by Olivera. We dont know how good Harris is until he get's in with one of the best
i agree with not really knowing how good haris is, but its pretty esay to see hes one of the best the division has to offer.