Everyone always mentions Chavez as one of the greatest fighters of all time and indeed he was. However, there were some things that, in my opinion, he lacked. He was not that fast, his Ko's were accumulation of punishment. Not actually a one punch destroyer. Also I think he was never unbeatable. Just that he had a big heart and iron will determination and this helped him to overcome tough opponents who could have beaten him.
On the other hand, DLH(in the early days and up to welter) had great footwork and his combinations were very fast. He also had a good left hook and a terrific jab. The con is that he probably was not half as brave as Chavez.
All in all. I say DLH would rank higher. My opinion.
God please forgive me for responding to this ignorant. So I guess Jerry Rice ain't really the best receiver to ever play the game 'cause he can't seem to even get off the line and doesn't even get to start these days, I wonder why. Larry Donald is also better than Holyfield ever was.
Give me a freakin break Chavez wasnt that old when he got beat by Oscar. Fighters today fight well into thier 40's. Look at Hopkins.
its funny how you guys keep saying oh yeah Chavez would have worked on Oscars body and beat him down.....What?.....did you not see the Oscar fights in which he thouroughly beat dwon Chavez into embarrassment? Yall are living in fantasy land. Hellooo....Oscar whooped that punk azz twice.
I say it's Chavez bro. Chavez in his prime would be another b-hop nightmare for ODLH. Damn! how I wish they primed in the same era to settle this question!
How very observant my Mexican homeboy. Yes Nasty Handspeed is known in other boards as well, for speaking his mind and not being a nut hugger. Fact is Chavez got beat by Whitaker and the judges robbed Whitaker by calling it a draw. Chavez got beat fair and square by Frankie Randall then cried like a little beeyotch in the ring about it. Then got his azz beat like a red headed step child by that pretty boy Oscar DeLahoya not once but TWICE. And last but not least I never seen a man get beat so bad like how Tsyzu whooped the hell out of Chavez, it was in humane what Tszyu was doing to him it looked like someone beating a stray dog. They should have called the animal abuse shelter for the beating Tszyu gave Chavez. So now all these things including the fact that Chavez beat a lot of bums to fatten up his record. I would say DeLahoya has more credibility than that punk Chavez. And dont forget Oscar whooped his azz TWICE. :D
if u never seen some one get beat that bad then u never saw holmes vs. Ali. don't forget both ali and chavez where at the end of there career's in those fights. and that doesn't take away from what they did in there prime. i don't even know y i am talking to u, it is obvious u either don't know what u r talking about or, u just hate chavez and can't give an honest opinion on him. just because u may not like a fighter u shouldn't take away from his skill.
How very observant my Mexican homeboy. Yes Nasty Handspeed is known in other boards as well, for speaking his mind and not being a nut hugger. Fact is Chavez got beat by Whitaker and the judges robbed Whitaker by calling it a draw. Chavez got beat fair and square by Frankie Randall then cried like a little beeyotch in the ring about it. Then got his azz beat like a red headed step child by that pretty boy Oscar DeLahoya not once but TWICE. And last but not least I never seen a man get beat so bad like how Tsyzu whooped the hell out of Chavez, it was in humane what Tszyu was doing to him it looked like someone beating a stray dog. They should have called the animal abuse shelter for the beating Tszyu gave Chavez. So now all these things including the fact that Chavez beat a lot of bums to fatten up his record. I would say DeLahoya has more credibility than that punk Chavez. And dont forget Oscar whooped his azz TWICE. :D
Everything you mentioned is in the decline of his career. And why do you gotta call everything a punk? Something is seriously wrong with you. Its obvious you know nothing about Chavez by the way.
And you know what people who talk about what they dont know are called?
In your words,
"punk azz byoootches"
:D :p
hahahaha hey that fool known as nasthandspeed sounds like someone from another board. da fuk are u guys talkin about go check the Rings greatest fighters i think that chavez was ranked ahead of holyfield and de la hoya and they know more about boxing then u.
How very observant my Mexican homeboy. Yes Nasty Handspeed is known in other boards as well, for speaking his mind and not being a nut hugger. Fact is Chavez got beat by Whitaker and the judges robbed Whitaker by calling it a draw. Chavez got beat fair and square by Frankie Randall then cried like a little beeyotch in the ring about it. Then got his azz beat like a red headed step child by that pretty boy Oscar DeLahoya not once but TWICE. And last but not least I never seen a man get beat so bad like how Tsyzu whooped the hell out of Chavez, it was in humane what Tszyu was doing to him it looked like someone beating a stray dog. They should have called the animal abuse shelter for the beating Tszyu gave Chavez. So now all these things including the fact that Chavez beat a lot of bums to fatten up his record. I would say DeLahoya has more credibility than that punk Chavez. And dont forget Oscar whooped his azz TWICE. :D
....Chavez resume is filled with stiffs. I think he was one of the most overated guys out there. Meldrick Taylor was flat kicking his ass when he got caught. I was never impressed with Chavez and always thought it was all about the hype.
Were you actually watching what was going on in the ring?
Taylor did'nt get caught.. he was broken down and beaten up. The getting caught by flush shots from chavez started, since Round 1!!! The swallowing blood Started in Round 2.
hahahaha hey that fool known as nasthandspeed sounds like someone from another board. da fuk are u guys talkin about go check the Rings greatest fighters i think that chavez was ranked ahead of holyfield and de la hoya and they know more about boxing then u.
You felt that I wanted to discredit Chavez but I never did. These two did.
hahahaha hey that fool known as nasthandspeed sounds like someone from another board. da fuk are u guys talkin about go check the Rings greatest fighters i think that chavez was ranked ahead of holyfield and de la hoya and they know more about boxing then u.
....Chavez resume is filled with stiffs. I think he was one of the most overated guys out there. Meldrick Taylor was flat kicking his ass when he got caught. I was never impressed with Chavez and always thought it was all about the hype.
Definitely.
DLH couldn't hold Chavez's jockstrap. Chavez was dominant fighting machine. DLH not so much.
....Chavez resume is filled with stiffs. I think he was one of the most overated guys out there. Meldrick Taylor was flat kicking his ass when he got caught. I was never impressed with Chavez and always thought it was all about the hype.
Man, please Chavez aint even in Holyfield and Ali's class dont mention that little punk in the same breath as these greats. Chavez went undefeated in his first 90 cuz he fought a lot of Tijuana cab drivers anyway. Once again Oscar is a punk too but he sure did beat Chavez like a red headed step child not once but TWICE. :D
y not, JCC was a great fighter. and his 100 plus wins speaks for it self. DLH had some tough fights, bad thing is he lost them all.(Tito,Hopkins,Shane twice) all his his prime. so in no way is he better. and P4P you can't rank Ali's or Holyfields chin, heart, stamina or power over JCC. maybe speed but he showed against meldrick taylor that he could get around that.
yeah and chavez was about 50yrs in that fight, this guy won like his 1st 90 fights, and against great comp. chavez was the man. if you beleive that, then u may also beleive the ALI and Holyfield also sucked because they lost to younger guys when they got old
Man, please Chavez aint even in Holyfield and Ali's class dont mention that little punk in the same breath as these greats. Chavez went undefeated in his first 90 cuz he fought a lot of Tijuana cab drivers anyway. Once again Oscar is a punk too but he sure did beat Chavez like a red headed step child not once but TWICE. :D