Vitali Is Most Underrated Fighter Now

You know nohing you limey faggot! Quit trying to hype up a peice of shit Williams! Klitschko is going to detroy that British milkdud. He gonna hit him so hard Danny might start praying to Jesus instead of Allah :eek: Are you still here i thought id dealt with you via pm and your bigotry. get a life you silly little man.

I Don't think he is underrated in the sense of the HW division not being very strong right now.

he is not underrated he is just the top of a really bad bunch. But the Sanders fights didn't suggest that he is underrated in any way. By that logic, someone like Joe Calzaghe is really underrated cause he is the best in a poor division!

"oh have a day off mate with this constant spamming of your favourite fighters, he did lose to lewis check the bloody result. then check the rules, then check the result again he lost. he lost to byrd cos he retire in the 10th, he only had a round and a bit to go, a torn rotator cuff is not the most painful of injuries a boxer could suffer, trust me on this. fighters have gone through much more and continued, Danny williams for one. Vitali is a decent chap but please dont make out he gets no respect he gets plenty." I agree totally. He gets plenty of props and a loss is a loss.

Lewis did not want to fight with Vitali...? Probably Lewis only did not want to risk?

Here is a sample of an article regarding Vitali and Lewis. Even though I like Lewis, after reading this I do have to question his ballsack a little bit. "

You still don't get it. This is like trying to have a discusion with SDW. No....YOU don't get it. You are using something tangible, in a debate over an intangible. Do you honestly believe it takes more heart to QUIT, with a single injury sustained late in a fight...than it does to repeatedly slam BOTH of your broken fists into a man's body & head, while taking punches & head butts to your broken cheekbone ? You are hopeless....& still, the most limited poster on this board.

you know, as bad as the heavywieght division is, imagine what it would be like without VK... what would the big fight be??? byrd vs ruiz??? even if you dont like VK, you have admit that he's the one bright spot in an otherwise dismal division... his fights with lewis, sanders and KJ were by far more entertaining then any fights of ruiz, rahman and brewster

I don't care which injury is more serious. Fact is....all of them hurt, & hurt badly. The big difference here is WHEN these injuries occurred. Your hero could not operate through the pain. These other guys could. You still don't get it. This is like trying to have a discusion with SDW.

I don't care which injury is more serious. Fact is....all of them hurt, & hurt badly. The big difference here is WHEN these injuries occurred. Your hero could not operate through the pain. These other guys could.

Neuraxis.... Your numbers mean nothing to me. One number does matter.....Round 2. The fact that both the guys I noted sustained injuries THAT EARLY, yet fought their HEARTS out to win.....matters far more than the recovery time for each injury. & please....don't ever dream to compare V. Klit to Jeff Fenech. Fenech had THREE injuries, compared to Vit's ONE. Fenech, is a great fighter. Klit, is just a good one. All of your numerolgy, & talk of linear champs, shows me that you READ more than you think. Shows me don't really know the nuances of boxing. Wake up dude. Ask any doctor which injury is the most serious for long term effects. Just admit that you are wrong.

Neuraxis.... Your numbers mean nothing to me. One number does matter.....Round 2. The fact that both the guys I noted sustained injuries THAT EARLY, yet fought their HEARTS out to win.....matters far more than the recovery time for each injury. & please....don't ever dream to compare V. Klit to Jeff Fenech. Fenech had THREE injuries, compared to Vit's ONE. Fenech, is a great fighter. Klit, is just a good one. All of your numerolgy, & talk of linear champs, shows me that you READ more than you think. Shows me don't really know the nuances of boxing.

He beat Meehan, KO'd wlad as for etienne he his a good fighter with alot of heart just not a great chin. i mean the guy has only lost 2 fights, and most of his wins are by KO, heart goes a long way. Yeah, Clifford has tons of heart, and a bad temper too! You know, he actually went undefeated in prison, so his actual record would be something like 55-2-2 ! By the way, guys, I know my shoulder will require surgery, so says the doc, but I'm telling you, the pain is only bad in the mornings, and whenever I lift something wrong. There seems to be a point that during the lift I feel a stabbing pain on what feels like the top of shoulder joint itself. And as I type this, there is a bit of pain in the back of my arm in between the joint and the shoulder blade itself. -- O.K. -- my arm is pretty fucked up -- I admit it. The doc said the tear will stay the way it is or perhaps worsen just a bit, but it isn't going to heal itself. Like I said I have had this thing for 10 months! It sucks....

i feel u on that Rick Reeno....please ban this loser.

Witter the Hitter!

I was thinking about saying something about Brewster, but I think enough has been said already. As for you idiots who think VK isn't the best heavyweight in the world... you're lying to yourselves. So he got cut by Lewis, yeah, he lost, and Lewis DID beat him. But where's the big Brit these days??? His tapout with that rotator cuff injury, we'll never know what kind of pain he was in, rotator cuff injuries are weird, the pain depends on where the tear is and how severe it is, so I'll give the 6 foot whatever 200some lb DOCTOR the benefit of the doubt when were talking clinical diagnosis of a sports related injury... Ruiz is the only man that has a shot at taking down the giant, and judging by the way he looked a few weeks ago, I forsee another Kirk Johnson type fight in the making. VK is one of the smartest, hardest hitting heavyweights around right now, mix that in with his long arm style of pummelling men into the ground, you've got an UNDISPUTED HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD.

Since you don't seem to know much about medicine or injuries here you go. http://www.myhealth24.com Torn rotator cuff (18 weeks): For serious injuries, the prognosis is usually good, some six weeks of physical therapy being required following surgery. Full recovery may take several more months. In some cases, the injury is so severe that it requires tendon grafts and muscle transfers. A severe injury is not repairable. Dislocated shoulder (2 weeks): After the dislocation has been corrected, the joint may require immobilization with a cast or sling for two to eight weeks. Broken Bone (6 weeks): It usually takes about six weeks for a broken bone to heal together. And if scientific facts aren't enough for you, just take a look at their records before and after their injuries. Biggs: before 8-0; after 21-10 Fenech: before 22-0; after 5-3-1 Vitali: before 27-0; after 7-1 Hmmmm, who has done the best since their injury? Boy o Boy looks like I may have to really step up my game with posts like this...shit...research, I don't know weather or not too think thats gay or thats impressive....I will give you the benefit...I'm impressed. At the very least you have dug up some interesting information...this is one of those insightful posts that I would expect out of ToneyTucker, thanks for the history lesson your info if correct is intruiging.

I have seen the fight a few times, how can you jump on me for saying LL was going to win, but not comment on everyone who says VK was about to win. IMO i think LL would have pulled it off, VK couldn't see out of his left eye, and was getting tagged there, his whole left side even his lip was beat the fuck up, I think LL was landing the harder punches, and no matter how many times i watch the fight i will still beleive that. All right I am sorry for jumping on you, but here's the deal, any VK fan who says he was going to win the fight is saying so because thats the result they want, same goes for people who say that LL was going to win. The fight was on the table, niether guy had the advantage...I too thought Lennox might have a slight nod going into the final six rounds until I saw him hit his stool, the guy was thru(so was VK). We may have very well seen a Rocky Balboa/Apollo Creed double knock down if the fight had continued...

Yes he has 2losses, against Byrd he gave upp allthough he was whoping Byrds ass, had he continued the fight it could have ruined his carer. Against LL he won 1,2,4 and 6 round. LL collapsed on the way to his dressing room. The thing is he has never been beaten upp ore been outboxed. 36 he has like 36 bouts and he has never lost by anything else than 1 injury caused by bad luck and on caused by cheating (yes i mean LL and no a forehead is not the same as a fist). Untill someone knocks him out ore beats him by points he has my full support.

He beat Meehan, KO'd wlad as for etienne he his a good fighter with alot of heart just not a great chin. i mean the guy has only lost 2 fights, and most of his wins are by KO, heart goes a long way. exactly... he beat meehan, who the hell is meehan?nobody..... he lost to etienne, the guy tyson and fres killed... he lost shufford, the guy wlad and mccline KO'd... he did beat wlad, but in MUCH less impressive fashion then sanders did... brewster sucks