Chris Byrd rated over Klitscko???

I just checked out www.boxingtalk.net and their new pound for pound top 20. They rated Chris Byrd as 17 pound for pound best and Vitali Klitscko isn`t on the list. Now, i realize that Byrd beat Klit a threw years back on an injury but come on, Klit was winning, it was a fluke. The only other heavyweight on the list was James Toney at number 12. I can live with Toney being on the list but again, Klitscko should be acknowledged as the best heavyweight. Just to make sure it isn't just me, i will run a poll and see what people think about the heavyweights around today! Because Chris Byrd is a natural Middleweight and like it or not holds a win over Klitschko. Call it BS but a win is a win otherwise he probably would've retired after the loss to Oquendo. I'm a member at boxingtalk and consider it the most knowledgeable boxing website on the net. G Leon is the Man!!!!

meaning when you make a "pound for pound list" you are incoporating that person's overall skills as a boxer regardless of his weight class. Someone who is smaller but has shown he is a force across divisions, like Maywheather Jr, or have displayed consistent excellent at one weight class are usually in the upper PFP rankings. Vitali Klitschko is very big but has shown to be far from dominant and for him to even be considered PFP he would have to dominate the HWs for a while as well as show considerable boxing skill. Which he has not. I totally agree with this. Nautlis has no idea what P4P means.

Don't get me wrong, though, V Klit has good skills, he just depends on his size a lot more.

What is this ranking based on? Skills? In terms of skills, Chris Byrd is way better than V Klit, but also in terms of skills, James Toney is ahead of both

Woody Allen that's a good one

Who wins, Jirov or Vit? I will cheer for Jirov just a bit more than for Vitali. I hope friendship wins. I can't tell you who wins since Tanya will get upset at me.

Who wins, Jirov or Vit? Woody Allen

it is just a couple of words, not a big deal Jirov is my fav fighter Who wins, Jirov or Vit?

Naut, you should save your Klit arguments onto a Word file so you can cut and paste. It must be time consuming to have to defend your boy all the time. Or maybe a sticky to link new members to.... it is just a couple of words, not a big deal Jirov is my fav fighter

Naut, you should save your Klit arguments onto a Word file so you can cut and paste. It must be time consuming to have to defend your boy all the time. Or maybe a sticky to link new members to....

meaning when you make a "pound for pound list" you are incoporating that person's overall skills as a boxer regardless of his weight class. Someone who is smaller but has shown he is a force across divisions, like Maywheather Jr, or have displayed consistent excellent at one weight class are usually in the upper PFP rankings. Vitali Klitschko is very big but has shown to be far from dominant and for him to even be considered PFP he would have to dominate the HWs for a while as well as show considerable boxing skill. Which he has not. the poll shows otherwise

meaning when you make a "pound for pound list" you are incoporating that person's overall skills as a boxer regardless of his weight class. Someone who is smaller but has shown he is a force across divisions, like Maywheather Jr, or have displayed consistent excellent at one weight class are usually in the upper PFP rankings. Vitali Klitschko is very big but has shown to be far from dominant and for him to even be considered PFP he would have to dominate the HWs for a while as well as show considerable boxing skill. Which he has not.

Chris Byrd in my book, Vitali might have fought a valiant fight in lewis but what ranks him the better man??? Chris Byrd has fought the opposition and If we are going to judge a fighter by his losses than John Ruiz ;) Chris Byrd best heavyweight we have yet to see....You dont have to be knocking out big sloppy tit white boys to be a great heavyweight.... Muhammad Ali didnt do it and he is considered "great" and Byrd is so damnc lose to Ali... Blaaah...Excuse my ramblings.

а вообще, конечно, господа, тяжелова-то с вами общаться... языковой барьер знаете ли-с... из всех перечисленных боксеров одним из самых неплохих является Крис Берд и Джеймс Тони. Первый, потому что легко справится с остальными кроме Тони. ) iz kakogo goroda Vy?

The list is PFP . . . Klitschko for his size is crap. what do you mean...?

James Toney now too not small :) But he, really expert!

The list is PFP . . . Klitschko for his size is crap.

in a p4p situation james toney is head and shoulders above the rest but because of the others size thats why they are so competitive

а вообще, конечно, господа, тяжелова-то с вами общаться... языковой барьер знаете ли-с... из всех перечисленных боксеров одним из самых неплохих является Крис Берд и Джеймс Тони. Первый, потому что легко справится с остальными кроме Тони. Greetings from Russia... :)

From the specified boxers, in my opinion, is Chris Byrd