Where does Barrera place p4p?

lol..i didnt even know u went for morales tracylee..i was talking about other's lol...anyway it was a great fight...EM will beat manny pacquiao and shut the critics up...Mannys style will always be made for EM I'm sorry Hurlex, I'll have to disagree again. Barrera defeated Morales with his speed and aggression. That is the definition of Pac's offense. I think you're overlooking Pacman a wee bit too much.

I wish they could have ended up like Gatti-Ward, but thats not gonna happen obviously. It does make me wonder if the decision had gone the other way, would Barrera have shaken Morales' hand (assuming Erik offered) and / or would he offer still to shake Morales' hand. Confusing enough?? :D Actually Barrera went up to shake Morales hand before the decision. My p4p now 1. Bernard Hopkins 2. Floyd Mayweather 3. Kostya Tszyu 4. Winky Wright 5. Manny Pacquiao 6. Marco Antonio Barrera 7. Erik Morales 8. Antonio Tarver 9. Diego Corrales 10. The Marquez Brothers

this is my top ten pound for pound 1. bernard hopkins 2. floyd mayweather 3.winky wright 4. manny pacquiao 5.marco antonio barrera 6.erik morales 7.kosta tszyu 8. antonio tarver 9.cory spinks 10.zab judah( i know im gonna catch some heat for this but if he could keep focused he could do some damage)

lol..i didnt even know u went for morales tracylee..i was talking about other's lol...anyway it was a great fight...EM will beat manny pacquiao and shut the critics up...Mannys style will always be made for EM

sorry i have not been here ppl...anyway...WHAT DID I SAY!!!..yeah MAB...told u all (well some of u close minded a-holes lol) that he wasnt done..anyway...MAB will always be remembered as one of the best..i mean if he beat JMM/PAC winner he might even make it into top 5..anyway...thing is..MAB could face pac in a rematch get ko'ed in 2 rounds..but in 20 years will be remembered and pac wont...fighter like MAB have that heart that fans love..and if you cant respect him not anyone in particular just others on here) then i dont know how you can call ur self a boxing fan gotta admit, though, if MAB faces Pac again, i wouldn't be surprised if Pac does win again, but maybe not as lopsided as the first one. After the first fight, i started wondering if Pac just has Barrera's number, MAB's style doesn't do well against big punchers who are faster than him

sorry i have not been here ppl...anyway...WHAT DID I SAY!!!..yeah MAB...told u all (well some of u close minded a-holes lol) that he wasnt done..anyway...MAB will always be remembered as one of the best..i mean if he beat JMM/PAC winner he might even make it into top 5..anyway...thing is..MAB could face pac in a rematch get ko'ed in 2 rounds..but in 20 years will be remembered and pac wont...fighter like MAB have that heart that fans love..and if you cant respect him not anyone in particular just others on here) then i dont know how you can call ur self a boxing fan Respect his abilities, chin, determination, dedication during training, heart, control and much more. Fouls? No. That seems to be the focal point here, right. Everybody making a federal case out of me saying I dont like fouls? Which is why I answered you.

sorry i have not been here ppl...anyway...WHAT DID I SAY!!!..yeah MAB...told u all (well some of u close minded a-holes lol) that he wasnt done..anyway...MAB will always be remembered as one of the best..i mean if he beat JMM/PAC winner he might even make it into top 5..anyway...thing is..MAB could face pac in a rematch get ko'ed in 2 rounds..but in 20 years will be remembered and pac wont...fighter like MAB have that heart that fans love..and if you cant respect him not anyone in particular just others on here) then i dont know how you can call ur self a boxing fan

Gatti - Ward was just about boxing, it was never personal. With EM and MAB it was about how Mexico isn't big enough for both of them. i really like what m00ks said on the other thread how there never is a clean war, and these 3 fights were a war. Gatti and Ward are buddies now and have nothing but admiration for each other's heart, which is the way it should be, but i can't see things going much different had things gone the other way in the case of EM and MAB. Arturo Gatti never talked trash about Ward on tv before they fought, there's just real bad blood between EM and MAB and probably always will be. i think Morales doesn't hate Barrera because of the fights, or probably even because of the fouls, but because MAB dissed him so much on national tv and talked about him like he was monkey. So true! I just meant that it would be nice if they had walked away with some mutual respect for one another...not necessairly be buddies, but give each other credit cause on their own theyre both fun to watch, but with each other they dynamite! ;)

Bad blood.

The only good thing about these fights were that they weren't like Gatti-Ward with all the bullshit hugging and touching gloves. These two hated each other and that's what made the event worth watching. I'm glad they didn't start making out after it was over like Gatti did with Ward... :D

Gatti - Ward was just about boxing, it was never personal. With EM and MAB it was about how Mexico isn't big enough for both of them. i really like what m00ks said on the other thread how there never is a clean war, and these 3 fights were a war. Gatti and Ward are buddies now and have nothing but admiration for each other's heart, which is the way it should be, but i can't see things going much different had things gone the other way in the case of EM and MAB. Arturo Gatti never talked trash about Ward on tv before they fought, there's just real bad blood between EM and MAB and probably always will be. i think Morales doesn't hate Barrera because of the fights, or probably even because of the fouls, but because MAB dissed him so much on national tv and talked about him like he was monkey.

i like Barrera and I WOULDN'T SHAKE HIS HAND AFTER IF HE DID ALL ThAT SHIT TO ME. Morales isn;t a sore loser, i don't think he'll EVER forgive Barrera for all the doggin', the fouls, etc., but most of us wouldn't either I wish they could have ended up like Gatti-Ward, but thats not gonna happen obviously. It does make me wonder if the decision had gone the other way, would Barrera have shaken Morales' hand (assuming Erik offered) and / or would he offer still to shake Morales' hand. Confusing enough?? :D

Exactly....I'm sorry, some can say that the rabbit punches werent deliberate, but they need to tell that to the thousands in attendance last night since they boo'd him for it. I'm serious, if that wasnt intentional, then I dont know intentional. I just couldnt believe it took Bayless so long to put a stop to it...several blows landed before he forced him to stop punching him on accident. I'm not talking about an occasional rabbit punch; I'm talking about the time where Barrera had ahold of him and punched him there like 4 or 5 times in a row :eek: I know and understand that they hate each other, but Morales didnt pull that crap with him. And considering that Barrera not only sucker punched him during the press conference (they even replayed that last night too and it was the first time I'd seen it) but he trash talked him just as much, if not more, than Erik has him in the past. Asking that man to shake his hand after all that would be like asking him to not breathe. NO WAY i like Barrera and I WOULDN'T SHAKE HIS HAND AFTER IF HE DID ALL ThAT SHIT TO ME. Morales isn;t a sore loser, i don't think he'll EVER forgive Barrera for all the doggin', the fouls, etc., but most of us wouldn't either

i understand, you'd rather see Barrera put on a good show w/o the fouls... but i can't talk shit about Barrera for fouling, because do it too, but unintentionally. i'd be hypocrite if i blasted Barrera for all low blows and rabbit punches, BUT SOMEONE ELSE CAN. all i can say is FOULS ARE BAD KIDS, DON'T COMMIT THEM Exactly....I'm sorry, some can say that the rabbit punches werent deliberate, but they need to tell that to the thousands in attendance last night since they boo'd him for it. I'm serious, if that wasnt intentional, then I dont know intentional. I just couldnt believe it took Bayless so long to put a stop to it...several blows landed before he forced him to stop punching him on accident. I'm not talking about an occasional rabbit punch; I'm talking about the time where Barrera had ahold of him and punched him there like 4 or 5 times in a row :eek: I know and understand that they hate each other, but Morales didnt pull that crap with him. And considering that Barrera not only sucker punched him during the press conference (they even replayed that last night too and it was the first time I'd seen it) but he trash talked him just as much, if not more, than Erik has him in the past. Asking that man to shake his hand after all that would be like asking him to not breathe. NO WAY

Thats ok...I always liked Barrera too! One of the hardest things I've had to do was watch them fight the first time; kinda like watching Holyfield vs. Lewis...I love them both. I wanted Morales to win this mainly cause I still believe he won the 2nd bout; and I did think he would win it. I only had a problem with the fouls and did lose some respect for him cause of them. He did fight like the 'old' Barrera last night, that's for sure. If he had done that without the fouls (or atleast some of them) then I wouldnt have had anything negative to say about him today. If people will go back and read my posts, they will see that I didnt put him down for him performance per say; but for his behavior....big difference. ;) i understand, you'd rather see Barrera put on a good show w/o the fouls... but i can't talk shit about Barrera for fouling, because do it too, but unintentionally. i'd be hypocrite if i blasted Barrera for all low blows and rabbit punches, BUT SOMEONE ELSE CAN. all i can say is FOULS ARE BAD KIDS, DON'T COMMIT THEM

ha ha ha! i'm laughin at all you guys, everybody said "Barrera's done", "he's got nothing left", "he can't beat Morales", and now after he shows you up he's back in the p4p! (sorry Tracy, i know how much u like Morales) Thats ok...I always liked Barrera too! One of the hardest things I've had to do was watch them fight the first time; kinda like watching Holyfield vs. Lewis...I love them both. I wanted Morales to win this mainly cause I still believe he won the 2nd bout; and I did think he would win it. I only had a problem with the fouls and did lose some respect for him cause of them. He did fight like the 'old' Barrera last night, that's for sure. If he had done that without the fouls (or atleast some of them) then I wouldnt have had anything negative to say about him today. If people will go back and read my posts, they will see that I didnt put him down for him performance per say; but for his behavior....big difference. ;)

I was for Barrera and he has not brought!!!

Not so much as Barrera was done, I never thought that. I just always believed Morales was better. Wtf peopel HAD REASON TO THINK THAT. Anyweyz, thats what makes boxing great. It's unpredictability. Heck I was happy Barrera proved me wrong, shows the beauty of the sport. yeah, i think i remember you saying that Morales was better, I still cant believe what an awesome fight that was. Unbelievable.

ha ha ha! i'm laughin at all you guys, everybody said "Barrera's done", "he's got nothing left", "he can't beat Morales", and now after he shows you up he's back in the p4p! (sorry Tracy, i know how much u like Morales) Not so much as Barrera was done, I never thought that. I just always believed Morales was better. Wtf peopel HAD REASON TO THINK THAT. Anyweyz, thats what makes boxing great. It's unpredictability. Heck I was happy Barrera proved me wrong, shows the beauty of the sport.

With the stuning victory where does he place in your p4p list? ha ha ha! i'm laughin at all you guys, everybody said "Barrera's done", "he's got nothing left", "he can't beat Morales", and now after he shows you up he's back in the p4p! (sorry Tracy, i know how much u like Morales)