Ok, enough Morales talk, he's old news :D Let's begin talks about Marco-Manny II. What do you think will happen this time around? Do you think Manny is still too fast and powerful for him, or will he be able to do something to at least win 1 round OFFICIALLY(no tripping and count as kd)? Barrera looked great for Morales, though maybe Morales isn't that great after all. Only Barrera is his top opposition since those 2 hate each other so much, it brings out the best in both. What do you think? I still say Manny had done so much preparation in the first fight that he practically feels like he trained Barrera himself. I think Manny has Barrera fully figured out and nothing will change in rematch although Manny sinces to be getting stronger and stronger by the day...(he knocked down a welterweight in his sparring for his Dec. fight). Hmm Hmmm, your thoughts?
MAB style is perfect for Manny he is open right down the middle all day. He will not change his style to beat Manny and therfore i think 4 out of 5 times Manny Wins. JMM is more tricky but i dont think he wants any part of Pac. I keep hearing how once JMM figured out Pac he outboxed him easy, wow. All Pac man was doing was right left. He now throws the right hook quite often and has a nice uppercut. I say JMM sets the pace but he will get caught. ;)
Nah, I'm just fuckin' around.
I respect your opinion...and I'm sure you respect mine.
I was just joking around.
I guess my previous post is an example of the type of confusion that occurs between users when a smilie isn't used.
you shouldn't repsect his opinion. He IS a disgrace and someone should really start banning these types.
This is what you do when you ran out of reasonable posts. lol! You're pathetic and really funny kiddo. lol!
Nah, I'm just fuckin' around.
I respect your opinion...and I'm sure you respect mine.
I was just joking around.
I guess my previous post is an example of the type of confusion that occurs between users when a smilie isn't used.
Pak men, you're a disgrace! You give us, "real" Pac fans, a bad name in this forum by your nuthugging. Why resurrect an old thread from years back, what are you trying to prove?
Based on your number of posts, you're only here because Pac won last week. Don't get too excited, Velazquez is not Morales. And what if Pac loses to Morales in the rematch (God forbid!), then you're nuthugging ass will disappear as well, right? You're not a real fan, you're just here to instigate and just riding a bandwagon. Get outta here!
Pak men = the pinoy JUYJUY?
Or is it impossible to duplicate that degree of nuthugging?
Pak men, you're a disgrace
Pak men, you're a disgrace! You give us, "real" Pac fans, a bad name in this forum by your nuthugging. Why resurrect an old thread from years back, what are you trying to prove?
Based on your number of posts, you're only here because Pac won last week. Don't get too excited, Velazquez is not Morales. And what if Pac loses to Morales in the rematch (God forbid!), then you're nuthugging ass will disappear as well, right? You're not a real fan, you're just here to instigate and just riding a bandwagon. Get outta here!
Ok, enough Morales talk, he's old news :D Let's begin talks about Marco-Manny II. What do you think will happen this time around? Do you think Manny is still too fast and powerful for him, or will he be able to do something to at least win 1 round OFFICIALLY(no tripping and count as kd)? Barrera looked great for Morales, though maybe Morales isn't that great after all. Only Barrera is his top opposition since those 2 hate each other so much, it brings out the best in both. What do you think? I still say Manny had done so much preparation in the first fight that he practically feels like he trained Barrera himself. I think Manny has Barrera fully figured out and nothing will change in rematch although Manny sinces to be getting stronger and stronger by the day...(he knocked down a welterweight in his sparring for his Dec. fight). Hmm Hmmm, your thoughts?
the thing is,MAB's camp has been trying to avoid manny like a plague...
no,it won't happen.
Does Hamed posses PAC's speed? No? Not close in a million miles
Does Hamed posses PAC's power? No? Not even close
Does Hamed posses PAC's stamina? No? PAC's got 10 tanks in his lungs
Add that up pal and you got a MAB in the hospital.
Watch the velasquez fight again pal. Just try to watch how fast PAC punches in unseen directions and how relentless he was. That's more than enough to send you're precious MAB in a coma.
Well since you want to use previous opponents as an example for the outcome of this fight. Watch Barrera vs. Fana.
I'll put 500million+ points on Barrera.
:D Manny will not beat JMM . . . well how sure are you? Did Arum divulged to you his secret that the scorecards for the Pac/JMM rematch were already done? :D With Eric's loss I'm sure Arum will move Heavens and Earth to ensure JMM's victory for TOP RANKS to stay in the championship picture. yEAH JMM by U.D.! Don't you think Team Pac headed by Roach doesn't know what inside Arum's head? :p JMM won't get up from the canvas this time so there's no need for the FUCKI'N STUPID judges.
Yeah JMM vs MAB . . .then MAB retires . . . keep on
dreaming! :cool:
amen to that bro.......better pacman-mab2
scorecards are already rigged for pacman-jmm so why bother with jmm...he doesnt want a rematch anyway.............chicken!!!
very true..when u compare the mab that fought pac..he wasnt the same one before that fight or after...so we'll wait and see either way it will be one hell of a fight..at 130 of course
i think mab has his confidence back...and i wouldnt wanna f**k with a mab thats has a clear head and 100% confidence behind him
Of course, MAB can beat Manny in a rematch. That, is, if Manny becomes overconfident and does not do his homework. But with Roach, Manny will behave.
My hat's off to Morales who did not say "it was not me out there against MAB".
This is with fairness opinion. I really think MAB is not 100% on that fight with Pacman. If you are going to compare it with his previous fights against Ayala and Morales, I can say he was different.
jmm clearly won that fight in my head...but who "should" have gotten the win should have been pac..just cuz of that 10-6 round crap...anyway...from what i saw (what i mean is) JMM can and might take pac easy now that he knows what to do and what not to...but i wanna know from a pac fan...what about manny not being able to ko JMM and getting schooled for a lot of those rounds tells u he can walk threw JMM the second time around...
cuz what i am hearing is not "its gonna be a close good fight"...what manny fans are saying is manny will ko him fast...my q..is why???why do u take so much away from JMM
same here bro...no hate for jmm and all the great mexican warriors like mab and erik. i love to see those guys fight and they've contributed greatly to what boxing is now. i just hate arrogant and disrespectful people...as for manny, i know this may sound like an excuse to you but i believe that the main reason why he wasn't able to ko jmm was because he hurt his foot after the 1st round...if you look closely starting from the 3rd round, you'd notice that his mobility was down. i believe it was in 6th round when he told freddie roach that his foot was hurting. i don't know if you heard it, but i did.
not only that, i believe that jmm's physical attributes are already on the downhill (power, speed, stamina, etc) while manny's has still some 2-3 years to reach its peak. nacho knows that the only way jmm can win against pac is to surpass the former's stamina coupled with jmm's boxing and counterpunching skills. to add to that, manny's learning curve is on the steep rise at this point having roach on his side while jmm's has already plateaud. i don't think jmm will improve that much while manny has still a big room for improvement... and this is where i rely most of my prediction. manny will be much a better fighter compared to his self on may 8. jmm will be a better fighter too having faced the pacman already and thus will know what to do. but the only difference is -- manny will be the more improved than the two.
jmm the second time around will face a more matured, more intelligent, and more skilled pacman than the one he fought in may. and jmm knows he still has to contend with the blazing speed, stamina and firepower. manny is real lucky that roach really cares about him. the roach factor will be the main difference in their next match IMHO. my 2 cents worth.
I just want to see the fight!!!! lol.... no point arguing what might be the outcome cause we'll never really know. What I would like to see is Pacman flooring JMM. A knockout, not a knockdown. Then doing a repeat of whatever he did to Barrera previously. Can Barrera beat Manny? Maybe, maybe not... who really knows? Bring it on and enjoy the fight I say.
Of course, MAB can beat Manny in a rematch. That, is, if Manny becomes overconfident and does not do his homework. But with Roach, Manny will behave.
My hat's off to Morales who did not say "it was not me out there against MAB".