I've read quite a few posts from people and there views on Tito and while they are respectful views i strongly disagree with them.
Tito came back after his layoff and fought Mayorga. This fight was catered for him in every single way. Tito was a great fighter before he came back but what better way to make him look even greater by beating up a one dimensional talentless fighter like Mayorga. I was impressed that he stopped Mayorga but not with the choice of opponent. Based on that performance i am still not 100% sure whether the real Tito is definatly back or not because that fight didn't give us the opportunity to see a talented fight from both fighters. On that opinion alone i cannot understand why so many of you think he will KO Winky. Winky is a great fighter who has never been stopped and has one of the most defensive technical styles i have seen in ages. He has everything to give Tito trouble and the only thing Tito can count on in this fight is a KO and it will never happen. Winky isn't dumb and will take no risks against Tito to end up knocked out. Fernando Vargas couldn't put down Winky and he had better boxing skills than Tito and had power to match. Tito had touble with Vargas in the earlier rounds and even got knocked down. I know past fights and line ups cannot be completely compared to try and predict results as boxing is a really unpredictable sport but the facts on paper at this particular time point to Winky. Until Tito fights a good all round fighter instead of a slugger and shows us he has everything still instead of just a heavy punch i don't fully estimate until i see what else he has.
I'd like to see Winky's reaction once he gets hit flush by a Tito left hook or straight right. Hopkins is the only one I have ever seen take Tito's punches. DLH boxed/ran well enuff not to get hit flush at all. No way IMHO Winky is at DLH and Hops level.
what were forgetting is tito looked alot better than
anyone would of imagined possible.he was incredibly
accurate instead of wild like he was against vargas.
mayorga wasnt hard to hit thats true but he still
turned in a masterclass performance thats made
everyone sit up and take notice of tito again
md tito or late ko tito
Tko-5. tito looks ready to plus it will be Winky moving up in weight.
What kind of aquisation is that? Tito isn't a winky anymore becuase he passed that stage in his 20th fight, Winky isn't near Trinidad's level right now, if they fight the outcome for winky will not be pretty! considering shane doesn't punch near as hard as tito, shane didn't have the heighth either. It will be proven when they fight, winky isn't gonna with stand punches from tito especially how quick tito is. He's demanding more money to so that he can go out rich in his demise!
which, would be the smart thing to do ....
What kind of aquisation is that? Tito isn't a winky anymore becuase he passed that stage in his 20th fight, Winky isn't near Trinidad's level right now, if they fight the outcome for winky will not be pretty! considering shane doesn't punch near as hard as tito, shane didn't have the heighth either. It will be proven when they fight, winky isn't gonna with stand punches from tito especially how quick tito is. He's demanding more money to so that he can go out rich in his demise!
Nobody was fawning over Winky until he fought sugar midget and beat him.His chin isn't solid enough to handles Trinidad's blows!
He turned down 3mil not to get killed!
Yes, mayorga is about as technically sound as 3rd grade after school fight, however, to beat the man is exhaustin both mentally and physically, his power makes be alert for any body movement for 12 rounds. Wether tito is back physically is not as clear cut, my opinion is that mentally he is still sharp in the game. But it is tru that Winky has a good defensive style, and that brings me a couple years back to a technical boxer puncher with a defensve style and stance that everybody thought tito would run over, BERNARD HOPKINS, no need to repeat the unneccessary i think every1 saw what happened. While Winky is no Hopkins righ now,he does possess some of those same qualities at a younger age. That fight would be something to see, I'm not sure who would win, thats my honest opinion
Hagler was a more versatile, better fighter than Winky. The comparisons to Hagler, are generous.
Hagler threw combinations, powerful ones. He mixed up his attack.
That's why Hagler KO'd people.
Winky is a monotonous fighter. A very good fighter, but not inspring.
I loved Marvin Hagler, he was a amazing fighter. Winky does bring something different to the table.
K-Yo That is just plain hating stupidness, everyone knows Winky is not anything like Ruiz.
So you like him because he brings something new to the table. Instead of being a common slick-southpaw i.e. Byrd, Whitaker, etc. He likes coming forward. Did you like Hagler, too?
What was Winky's best fight to you Winky fans, because I just don't see what's so interesting about him
IMO Winky's best fight was his first fight with Mosley. But even that fight was rather pedestrian. He's solid but he brings no excitment to the ring. Hell there were several empty seats in the arena last week. People keep talking about Winky being ducked, I think he just couldn't sell a fight at the time. Boxing is a business and Winky is doing just what was done to him, he's not interested in fighting solid guys who can't bring any cheese to the table.
Peace to Big_Pappy. I didn't want you to think i was an idiot boxing fan because i'm not. I'll be the first to admit i can judge things a little bias when it comes to Winky but i'm not scared of admitting when i'm wrong.
Jack i love most of his fights. The Fernando was exciting even though he lost and the Mosley fights have been amazing too. I like his come forward southpaw style and his jab. He really makes his opponents fight. I also respect that he hasn't got a KO punch so he utilises his other skills more to win.
You are right i am basing that particular fact on assumption and what i heard from a third party source. I am huge Winky fan and i have been for the last 6 years. I have seen most of his career and love watching his fights. Maybe it's because i can relate to him because my boxing style is similar to his. Please don't feel you can't debate with me, i am open minded enough to admit i'm wrong when several people tell me a fact i didn't know.
Peace............
thats cool man. no disrespect here. i like winky myself.
hey man i can tell its pointless trying to debate with this guy winkyfan cause he debates with assumption and heart. the facts are obviously not an option for him. i agree titos performance was very nice. even if it was mayorga. tito will do the talking with the gloves. don't get me wrong i like both tito and winky but winky doesn't have what it takes to beat tito imo. there were options for titos return and mayorga was not a setup from day one. if winky was so interested in fighting tito he would have faught him before mosley 2. i know i know. there were contracts and such. but winkyfan thinks that was a non issue. there were talks for a while about tito-dlh 2. but that really wouldn't make any sense. not a good fight to back from a long layoff.
You are right i am basing that particular fact on assumption and what i heard from a third party source. I am huge Winky fan and i have been for the last 6 years. I have seen most of his career and love watching his fights. Maybe it's because i can relate to him because my boxing style is similar to his. Please don't feel you can't debate with me, i am open minded enough to admit i'm wrong when several people tell me a fact i didn't know.
Peace............
my point is Jack that Winky doesn't hit hard enough IMO to even hurt Tito (even taking into account his shaky chin at the start of fights), also he (tito) should be more inclined to be discouraged if he feels enough power nowadays since Hopkins did a total number on him, even though his will is immense he surely has some self preservation in him and must realise he can't keep coming forward one dimensionally anymore, cos fighters will try to do a Hopkins on him.
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