Lewis has the power and size
Frazier has the pressure and wicked left hook
Can Lewis's stamina and chin hold out?
Would Frazier be able to handle a giant uppercut?
People who picked joe is a idiot he was way to basic to compete with that era
lennox would been the hardest skilled and most polished puncher joe ever fought
Lennox Would pick off joe and ko him joe was easy to hurt with counters they almost ended him shown by Oscar 1st round ko by lennox the best outboxer/combined with great power hw of all time
a 2nd drop ends joe lennox wasnt george with those sloopy bad tech shots that joe could keep getting up from or take before going down
I see Frazier working his way under the arms of Lewis as the fight goes on. His relentless style and lions heart would sooner or later help destroy his bigger foe. Lewis and Foreman can not be compared in my opinion. Foreman was a crude, raw power-puncher who just overwhelmed Frazier. Lewis would not be able to do that. He fought very differently from Foreman. He might take the early rounds against Frazier, but once Frazier starts smokin´ it is only a matter of time before he tires, hurts and knocks out Lewis.
Joe Frazier by late ko.
Hey Sturm, why is your bar red? Did the Lewis lovers hit you with bad K?
negative a little advise never ever hate on morales AND pac in the same thread lmao
Frasier-Lewis might look alot like Tua-Lewis. Frasier was known to leap with his left, which would be his only hope on Lewis, and he'd need a launching pad to get Lewis's chin.
This a good point, and also a pet peeve of mine, why do people say that Frazier wouldn't have much of a chance to reach Lewis' chin (which I personally agree with) when he is the same height more or less as Toney, who according to some, is going to knock Vitali out, who is significantly taller than Lewis? Just cracks me up.
Wrong Lewis was much much bigger than Foreman, bot only taller but alot stronger aswell.
Taking both fighters in there primes. 1st Frazier fight for Foreman, 1st Holyfield fight for Lewis
Foreman
Height- 6'3
Weight- 217lbs
Lewis
Height- 6'5
Weight- 242lbs
By comparision Chris Byrd who is a very small heavyweight by todays standards is 6'1, 215lbs. That gives you soem idea of how big Lennox Lewis actually is.
Lewis gets an unfair knock from the public that he is boring.
were these Lewis fights boring?
Rudock
Golota
Briggs
Mercer
Grant
Rahman 1
Rahman 2
Bruno
Botha
Vitali
Lewis has a much bigger waistline than George, and that, coupled with the slight height advantage is where the weight comes from, as well as the fact that Lewis NEVER looked as cut as a prime Foreman, but there is no way you can say his arms, shoulders, and chest are bigger than George's. Lewis may have a strength advantage on the inside, where he can wrestle, because of being able to lean the extra weight on his opponent, maybe...and that would only be because George didn't wrestle, but I'll bet he doesn't push more weight than Foreman, and I'd bet my house he doesn't punch as hard as Foreman, let alone harder, and besides, Lewis' Uppercuts and hook/roundhouse punches are much slower than Georges' ever were at his best, and those are the only punches that would be effective against Frazier. I see a boring, bullshit fight taking place, where Lewis can't really hit Frazier with anything, but Frazier can't really do anything on the inside because Lewis leans his weight on Joe and ties him up. Who wins? Dunno.
Lewis would find a way to hold his head down and sock him knocking him out. Lewis is a cheater..
Yeah, like when he had Grant beat, but he couldn't wait, and do it the right way. I don't care who he beat, he's dirty and that's that.
Frasier-Lewis might look alot like Tua-Lewis.
But, it really depends on which Lewis showed-up for the fight. Frasier would always show-up, but we all know there was at least two versions of Lennox. If the Lewis with the soft paw jab was trying to set-up the one big right hand, Frasier would have the same chance as Rahman and McCall. If the Lewis that met Evander twice showed-up, Frasier wouldn't get near Lewis' chin.
"Jose" said it all, well almost. Lewis inside 4. Simply put, it's the good big man (actually giant) versus the good little man (actually dwarf against Lewis). Frasier was known to leap with his left, which would be his only hope on Lewis, and he'd need a launching pad to get Lewis's chin.
I'm a huge frazier fan, but you might be right. Although I think Frazier would have a good chance to make it look like Oliver McCall vs Lewis.
The point is who would win against Lewis / Frazier. No way in hell Frazier wins. Lewis is too big for him. Also, lewis is faster and Lewis` problem was the right hand, not the left hook.
lewis in 2 rounds! Easy!!
Taller yes, BIGGER - no.
Foreman had much more power and a much bigger frame, with much more muscle than Lewis ever had. Big George would have beaten Lewis - to a pulp.
Now as to the question of Frazier's chances to have defeated Lewis, I could argue both sides until I am blue in the face, but my gut instinct tells me that if Lewis fought his style of fight he wins it.
Wrong Lewis was much much bigger than Foreman, bot only taller but alot stronger aswell.
Taking both fighters in there primes. 1st Frazier fight for Foreman, 1st Holyfield fight for Lewis
Foreman
Height- 6'3
Weight- 217lbs
Lewis
Height- 6'5
Weight- 242lbs
By comparision Chris Byrd who is a very small heavyweight by todays standards is 6'1, 215lbs. That gives you soem idea of how big Lennox Lewis actually is.
Lewis gets an unfair knock from the public that he is boring.
were these Lewis fights boring?
Rudock
Golota
Briggs
Mercer
Grant
Rahman 1
Rahman 2
Bruno
Botha
Vitali
Jose Had it Right
Frasier-Lewis might look alot like Tua-Lewis.
But, it really depends on which Lewis showed-up for the fight. Frasier would always show-up, but we all know there was at least two versions of Lennox. If the Lewis with the soft paw jab was trying to set-up the one big right hand, Frasier would have the same chance as Rahman and McCall. If the Lewis that met Evander twice showed-up, Frasier wouldn't get near Lewis' chin.
"Jose" said it all, well almost. Lewis inside 4. Simply put, it's the good big man (actually giant) versus the good little man (actually dwarf against Lewis). Frasier was known to leap with his left, which would be his only hope on Lewis, and he'd need a launching pad to get Lewis's chin.
i think lewis might drop fraizer early .. but fraizer would just keep comin no way lewis would beat him..lewis is too soft to beat a man that hard.. foreman beat him cuz foreman was crazy and coul punch with both hands
Why would Holyfield have to be at cruiserweight ?
Whatever....Holyfield wins in a war, by decision.
I just started a thread on it, yes Holyfield at Cruiser, since really that is what Marciano would really be in this day and age. I'm looking forward to seeing what these guys think! - Thanks Jab!
So we agree completely on the outcome of this one. Wonderful.
Now how about a Cruiserweighted Holyfield vs Marciano?!
Why would Holyfield have to be at cruiserweight ?
Whatever....Holyfield wins in a war, by decision.