Rocky marciano over or underrated

According to the site Ali was messing around. He obviously didnt take this fight seriously. When somebody gets hit with a body shot when they arent even protecting themselves, especially by a fighter like rocky marciano the other fighter will probably drop down 99% of the time. A prime Ali might have some trouble with Rocky, but he would still rack up rounds. You can compare Foremans power to Marciano and Ali fought Foreman beautifuly. I just cant see the bigger, quicker Ali losing.

These arguments are really pointless. Rocky Marciano beat every person that was placed in front of him in his career. He was not fun to watch. He had a strange, "crab" style of fighting. He was small yet a very powerful puncher. He was relentless in his attack and won many fights on attrition. To speculate on the outcomes of Marciano vs. Ali, etc is really pointless. The linear champions of the heavyweight division all deserve their props for their accomplishments. I have to put Rock withing the top 5 all time, but that's just a guess, and just my opinion. If we only had a time machine!

Very overrated, Ali is better then walcott period so he would beat him prime for prime, dempsley say he was the hardest hitter ever? i dotn think he ever foguth foreman or shavers now did he. he ebat a super old archie moore, an old charles, a completly done joe louis, but he did beat walcott, also in the firsyt walcott fight after joe is down did anyone see where rocky smashed him with a good sized left hook as he was walkign away, a cheapshot and very dirty tactic

Marciano is under rated plain and simple he was probably one of the most devistating punchers of all time just look into Marciano alittle and you will see scientific findings on his strenghth as well as just reviewing his fights. He is Under rated my most. And he would KO Ali late!

I think Marciano is a little bit of both. He is overrated because of his record, 49-0, devoleped by fighting over the hill legends such as Charles, Walcott, Louis, and Moore. He is underrated because he was a tremendous puncher who would've obliterated alot of great champions, including Frazier and Holmes. I think his place as one of the 5 greatest heavyweight champs of all time is where he deserves to be, but Louis was definitely the greatest of the greats.

Overall Rock is rated just about right. I think he would have trouble against the elite. (Ali,Holmes,Louis and Foreman) He wouldn't be outclassed in any, except maybe Foreman becuase that is a stlyes nightmare for Rock. I have him around #5 on my list.

Watch the first Walcot fight closely. After he was knocked down at the start of the fight, he was punching back, not just following Walcot like alot of people think, and landing to the body, almost punch for punch, as Walcot started to retreat, and continued to do so while Walcot tried to back up and box him. After being nearly blind through the middle rounds, close to the end of the fight, he's still forcing Walcot back, not just chasing him, but still staying close enough to land, almost punch for punchwith Walcot retreating, trying to box him. It's not as most people think, that Walcot battered him for 12 rounds and then he lands a lucky punch, watch the fight again, he was by no means being outclassed or outboxed, he was still in the fight big time, and wouldn't have been beaten up like he was if he had been able to see clearly through the middle of the fight. I can't see Ali easily outboxing him, he might win, but not easily. Walcot moved pretty well, and couldn't move quickly enough to stay out of the rock's punching range, I just don't see it being that easy, and Louis wouldn't run to save his ass against Schmeling, so to me it's a toss up, whoever gets caught with the big one first. The man wasn't that slow, he fought considerably smaller and faster fighters than we have now, no one takes that into account. how can i get a copy of this Walcot Marciano fight? that must've been ages ago, i can't find any film except for that one picture of his right punch

Relax, it was meant as a joke "cruiserweight ?". It is doubtful that Rocky would have defeated some of today's best heavyweights. Can't see him defeating Lewis, Holmes, Ali, Foreman (would destroy him), and would have a hard time against any 210 pound slugger of today.

Marciano was probably the third best Cruiserweight ever. This comment is bullshit. Does this mean that Jack Dempsey was a cruiserweight? What about Ezzard Charles or Jersey Joe Walcott? Does that mean that Henry Armstrong was a super lightweight, and so was Barney Ross or Jimmy McLarnin? Don't be absurd. If you honestly believe that Rocky Marciano would not have succeeded in this era of the "super heavyweight" (in spite of the success of a numbr of lighter heavyweight) then you're wrong.

If Jersey Joe Walcott could outbox Marciano for 12 rounds, i see Ali doing it the whole way. He simply wouldn't get caught very often, and when he would, he would be able to take the punches. I dunno if I agree with you. Most people underrate Jersey Joe as a champion because of a record that looks very poor. Also, they use his age to write off the Marciano loss. But the truth is, Walcott was a fighter with tremendous experience, and talent as well, who was mishandled early in his career and later on suffered an extremely bad decision or two. Plus, he and Ali were not the same type of boxer. Walcott didn't dance or even jab a whole lot. At least, not in comparison to Ali. The reason he almost won against Marciano is that he fought back very well when they were on the inside, something Ali would never do. Also, though Walcott was winning when he got knocked out, it was still close and Marciano was not completely, or even mostly, out of the a fight. Furthermore, Ali once said that Marciano might have been able to beat him. It was after their mock fight, and Ali came out and said that Marciano hit so hard and so much that every inch of his body ached. I mean, this amounted to a sparring session between to out-of-shape men and in spite of his much greater age, Marciano still was successful. Of course, it can't be forgotten that it was fake. Still though, it's the closest approximation that we have of a fight between the two. I guess my point is that if Joe Fazier could beat Ali, or even Ken Norton (though their styles are not very similar, Norton did take advantage of Ali's poor inside game) than Marciano would at least have a very good chance too.

The Rock was a great no doubt - but i really think he would have lost to Ali - exspecially if they fought now because fights get stopped so much quicker and the Rock was a bleeder and Ali would throw cutting one two's. And Ali did go down 3 times - but he always got up. I really don't think one can question his chin. The Rock was a great fighter though and nothing can be taken away - there are always what ifs - but his record does speak for itself.

Marciano was probably the third best Cruiserweight ever.

Alot of people underrate rockys defense. He actually did bob and weave often just at a slower pace. He had a shot of taking ali out late based on the fact that rocky NEVER ran out of gas in the later rounds. That's true, his conditioning was unbelievable, and the fact that he knocked Walcott out in the 13th, with both eyes damn near shut is a testament to his heart and will to win, giving up just wasn't an option for him.

Alot of people underrate rockys defense. He actually did bob and weave often just at a slower pace. He had a shot of taking ali out late based on the fact that rocky NEVER ran out of gas in the later rounds.

i think ali would have beaten him in the same way that he beat joe frazier. ali wouldnt have beaten rocky easily, he would have beaten him by decision or by tko on cuts. ali vs. rocky would be alomost an exact carbon copy of his fights with frazier. think about it, frazier and rocky's styles were almost identical with both being able to withstand lots of punishment. so yeah ali could have beaten him but it wouldnt have been easy. i think rocky is niether over rated or under rated. his place in history is just right. most of the top 10 ratings i've seen have him right in the middle of the top 10, which is where I have him at #4. Yeah, they are pretty close, the only real difference is that Frazier would come into any fight at least 15 lbs. heavier, and Marciano actually ran in, or kind of scampered, where Frazier kind of bobbed and weaved as he was shuffling, other than that, I guess they do have almost the same style.

I think Ali already had Parkinson's symptoms when he fought Holmes, that was sad, he didn't even fight back. They should have stopped that fight a long time before they did, instead of letting him get beat up like that.

Well he was the best fighter of his era, he fought the best that was put in front of him and beat them all, he didn't duck anybody. What more can you ask for? He would have kept fighting if a real challenger had emerged, but the only other guy out there was Floyd Patterson, and Cus D'Amato wouldn't let that fight happen because he knew Floyd would get handled. So Rocky just retired and decided to live in peace. I ranked Rocky very high.

Rock was the most underrated boxer in history. If he would have lost the title twice and won it back like Ali would that make him better? I think its better to keep the title the whole way. Ali liked to run his mouth, but in the end Marciano would show him what pain is. If Weptner could knock Ali off his feet with a body shot, what do you think guys like Marciano and Tyson would do to him? I mean Larry Holmes beat Ali for crying out loud. Ali's a top 10 boxer no doubt, but overrated is an understatment. Larry Holmes a young fighter beat a OLD Ali who was not even close to what he was when he was younger

ya Ali said that when he sparred marciano that marcianos body punches just pure hurt I think Ali can outbox him Marciano was good but he was just a slugger Ali can beat him if he fights tha way he did against liston n tha punches he took from foreman i'd have to give it to Ali by decision or late stoppage What would u guys think if a prime Joe Louis fought a prime Marciano, i'd have to give it to Joe Louis

From the footage i've seen of marciano, there is no doubt that he had a tremendous talent. For the type of fighter he was, a slugger, he was....in his time, the best in the business. I still think he would have been hard up against it to beat a true boxer like ali or frazier.