Jones update

Jones wanted the belt for a unification bout with Tarver.The first fight with Tarver was close but Jones won in my eyes, the second fight Jones was looking good and won the first round and until he got cocky and backed into the ropes, dropped his right hand to his hip was winning the second.This last fight he looked indifferent to the fight and let himself get swarmed and outworked but up until the ko Johnson wasn't landing anything damaging just outworking RJ.Then he drops his left to his hip this time and bang gets nailed.To fight any pro fighter you got to be into it and on your game or your gonna get nailed,anyone can get ko'd if they take it lightly and I believe that is what happened.Roy showed spurts of his old self and his hand speed was still there, he just looked like he was gonna ride it out and get Johnson out in the latter stages but underestimated Johnson and got nailed.I want one more fight with Roy's alter ego RJJ showing up before I write him off, I hope its at LH I think he has unfinished business there.If Roy's health is in danger as some are saying due to being dropped hard in tarver1 (he got up and beat the count) and ko'd in Johnson than Mayorga should retire yesterday for the punishment he took saturday.I've been waiting for a few years for the old Roy to show up maybe this will be what it takes, if not than I wish him well in retirement.Two fights at the end of a career do not a career make. Still waiting.

It's interesting that Jones would say that. I hope he knows what he's doing.

Jones issued a statement yesterday, here it is if anyones interested : Jones knew the obvious question before it was even asked: "Do I quit?," he asked himself casually. "Well, of course quitting ain't the right word for one. But two, I'm not a quitter so I can't tell you that. Off top the way I look at is I know I need a break from it because my body's been going through a lot. Know what I'm talking about? I've sent my body through a whole lot to make history. I had to almost sacrifice myself to make history when I won a heavyweight title. To come back down was a very difficult thing for me but at the same time I had things I said I would do and I tried to keep my word and do what I said I would do. So I came down and did that. Now since winning the heavyweight title everything has else has been just like - I got up for the heavyweight title. I haven't been up like that no more. And until I can get up like that it'll be best that I stay out of the ring because until I get up - what you going to go in there for? I tried to go back for the fans. I tried to go back to just do it but it's not the thing to just do it. This is a killer game. This is a killer sport. You know where I'm coming from? And it's not safe to just do it because you feel like people want you to do it. So if I don't have something to get me up from now on, to make me really, really go again I'm just going to take it easy and commentate and do what I do." Jones, who gained titles in four weight classes, was untouchable for the better part of a decade. But after winning the WBA Heavyweight title from John Ruiz, Jones has had very limited sucess since returning to 175 lbs. He struggled to gain a close decision over Antonio Tarver last November, was knocked out in their rematch then was knocked out brutally again by Johnson. Does he feel two consecutive knockout losses will ultimately affect his legacy? "I ain't ever been the one to worry about no legacy no way," he responded, laughingly. "When I was doing what I was doing before I won the heavyweight title, which I aspired to do, nothing could stop me until I got where I wanted to go. So they see it, as they want to see it but when I was hungry, in the hunt for what I wanted, nothing could stop me." Interestingly, if Jones does decide to return, he probably will not return to Light Heavyweight." I don't know. I might move back up. I'm not really sure yet. I can't make that call. I'll make that call when I'm ready to make that decision." Still, Jones (49-3, 38 KO's) points to lack of hunger as the main reason for his loss. "I know I don't have it now. I did what I wanted to do. If you hit the lotto you don't go to the store and play the numbers as hard as you played them before- you already hit the lotto. The loss is because I'm not hungry. When you're hungry you got to see everything that comes across your plate because you might not get to eat no more. When you're full, you can pass a few meals." But then again, you can wait a few hours and the hunger can return. So does Jones think he has the ability to regain his hunger for ring combat? "I could. One thing will help me regain the hunger is because I know me. And I know who I am. I'm going to take a little time off. I know how competitive I am. I know my mind will go in there and say 'OK, I'm ready now'. And if that happens I'll be ready and if it don't then I'm just going to chill. But I know it's coming." You are ducking my question.

Johnson fight Okay,if being motivated was really the reason why go through a Glencoffe Johnson, I would've just gone straight to a 3rd fight w/ Tarver which would've made alot more money". Jones wanted the belt for a unification bout with Tarver.The first fight with Tarver was close but Jones won in my eyes, the second fight Jones was looking good and won the first round and until he got cocky and backed into the ropes, dropped his right hand to his hip was winning the second.This last fight he looked indifferent to the fight and let himself get swarmed and outworked but up until the ko Johnson wasn't landing anything damaging just outworking RJ.Then he drops his left to his hip this time and bang gets nailed.To fight any pro fighter you got to be into it and on your game or your gonna get nailed,anyone can get ko'd if they take it lightly and I believe that is what happened.Roy showed spurts of his old self and his hand speed was still there, he just looked like he was gonna ride it out and get Johnson out in the latter stages but underestimated Johnson and got nailed.I want one more fight with Roy's alter ego RJJ showing up before I write him off, I hope its at LH I think he has unfinished business there.If Roy's health is in danger as some are saying due to being dropped hard in tarver1 (he got up and beat the count) and ko'd in Johnson than Mayorga should retire yesterday for the punishment he took saturday.I've been waiting for a few years for the old Roy to show up maybe this will be what it takes, if not than I wish him well in retirement.Two fights at the end of a career do not a career make.

Jones statement Jones issued a statement yesterday, here it is if anyones interested : Jones knew the obvious question before it was even asked: "Do I quit?," he asked himself casually. "Well, of course quitting ain't the right word for one. But two, I'm not a quitter so I can't tell you that. Off top the way I look at is I know I need a break from it because my body's been going through a lot. Know what I'm talking about? I've sent my body through a whole lot to make history. I had to almost sacrifice myself to make history when I won a heavyweight title. To come back down was a very difficult thing for me but at the same time I had things I said I would do and I tried to keep my word and do what I said I would do. So I came down and did that. Now since winning the heavyweight title everything has else has been just like - I got up for the heavyweight title. I haven't been up like that no more. And until I can get up like that it'll be best that I stay out of the ring because until I get up - what you going to go in there for? I tried to go back for the fans. I tried to go back to just do it but it's not the thing to just do it. This is a killer game. This is a killer sport. You know where I'm coming from? And it's not safe to just do it because you feel like people want you to do it. So if I don't have something to get me up from now on, to make me really, really go again I'm just going to take it easy and commentate and do what I do." Jones, who gained titles in four weight classes, was untouchable for the better part of a decade. But after winning the WBA Heavyweight title from John Ruiz, Jones has had very limited sucess since returning to 175 lbs. He struggled to gain a close decision over Antonio Tarver last November, was knocked out in their rematch then was knocked out brutally again by Johnson. Does he feel two consecutive knockout losses will ultimately affect his legacy? "I ain't ever been the one to worry about no legacy no way," he responded, laughingly. "When I was doing what I was doing before I won the heavyweight title, which I aspired to do, nothing could stop me until I got where I wanted to go. So they see it, as they want to see it but when I was hungry, in the hunt for what I wanted, nothing could stop me." Interestingly, if Jones does decide to return, he probably will not return to Light Heavyweight." I don't know. I might move back up. I'm not really sure yet. I can't make that call. I'll make that call when I'm ready to make that decision." Still, Jones (49-3, 38 KO's) points to lack of hunger as the main reason for his loss. "I know I don't have it now. I did what I wanted to do. If you hit the lotto you don't go to the store and play the numbers as hard as you played them before- you already hit the lotto. The loss is because I'm not hungry. When you're hungry you got to see everything that comes across your plate because you might not get to eat no more. When you're full, you can pass a few meals." But then again, you can wait a few hours and the hunger can return. So does Jones think he has the ability to regain his hunger for ring combat? "I could. One thing will help me regain the hunger is because I know me. And I know who I am. I'm going to take a little time off. I know how competitive I am. I know my mind will go in there and say 'OK, I'm ready now'. And if that happens I'll be ready and if it don't then I'm just going to chill. But I know it's coming."

His skills are gone. He's nothing but still won't admit it. So let him come back and fight again. I want to watch him get knocked out and never wake up. I don't think Jones skills are gone. He's not as fast anymore, but his skills are still there.

I took your advice and did a little reading, these quotes jumped out at me. For every Roy Jones Jr. who accomplishes everything you possible can do inside the ring, there is a Michael Nunn. People who show us flashes of greatness, but yet leave us in the dark when it matters most. Nunn will forever be remembered as an underachiever, not only in boxing, but in life as well. Michael Nunn was supposed to be Roy Jones before Roy Jones was Roy Jones. So why did he feel the need to duck Nunn and the fighter who beat who beat Nunn, Rocchigiani?

Michael Nunn You need to go back and look at what happened with Roy and the WBC belt in 1997-1998. I took your advice and did a little reading, these quotes jumped out at me. For every Roy Jones Jr. who accomplishes everything you possible can do inside the ring, there is a Michael Nunn. People who show us flashes of greatness, but yet leave us in the dark when it matters most. Nunn will forever be remembered as an underachiever, not only in boxing, but in life as well. Michael Nunn was supposed to be Roy Jones before Roy Jones was Roy Jones.

I agree he's just not interested and thats whats getting him into trouble.

ya his skills are all still there his heart is gone

Any day now.

thanks hom, excellent avatar by the way, i used to love watching those childs play films when i was a kid

Sorry - explain what's winstrol

I'd say that there was a good chance of that. I half expected to be jumped on by all the RJ lovers and before you all do I'm not a hater at all, in fact i'm quite a big fan but I do see what i see and too me that scenerio would explain alot or help explain why his body has deteriated so much, true age, weight loss can account for some of it but come on people look at the difference, it's like when Vargas weighed in for DLH ripped to death and normally he's lucky just to look in shape.

Yep, a big scam perpetrated by Roy to get out of fighting Michael Nunn. Roy had Rocky Rocchigiani do his dirty work for him. What a pudwhack. Exactly and shouldn't RJJ have beaten Rocchigiani to get his belt back? Why fight a dangerous opponent when you can have the WBC strip Rocchigiani and give it back to you.

Just another observation on RJ look at his body at 168 and early 175 fights he looked so much healthier and bulkier, the man was an awesome physical specimen, but ever since the Richard Hall fight when he was busted for gear he hasn't looked the same, yes still in good shape but no way near as good except when he fought Ruiz that's the last time I've been impressed with how he looks. Could it be all those years he had a little something extra? I'd say that there was a good chance of that.

Just another observation on RJ look at his body at 168 and early 175 fights he looked so much healthier and bulkier, the man was an awesome physical specimen, but ever since the Richard Hall fight when he was busted for gear he hasn't looked the same, yes still in good shape but no way near as good except when he fought Ruiz that's the last time I've been impressed with how he looks. Could it be all those years he had a little something extra?

I'm not sure where your taking this, but is Jones responsible for the decisions of the WBO.I think you need to justify your dislike of Jones based on a decision made by the WBO, Jones had nothing to do with that or he would of been named in the lawsuit along with the WBO, pretty lame reason to be dissin him I think. You need to go back and look at what happened with Roy and the WBC belt in 1997-1998.

Not trying to defend Roy but it's mostly true what this post says. He just doesn't have the heart, which is a hell of a knock on him anyway. He's still quick but doesn't have the killer instinct anymore, the energy, the adrenaline... it's gone. It's not a skill problem, it's an attitude/heart/motivation problem. In all honestly it looks like he's on drugs. I'm not trying to start a rumor or assume anything... just an observation.

Jones and the WBO So you think that belts shouldn't be won in the ring? I mean Tyson is a bigger attraction than Brewster even in his current state. Does that mean that the WBO should strip Brewster of his belt and give it to Tyson? Try to justify this. I am still waiting for a response, and you are online. I'm not sure where your taking this, but is Jones responsible for the decisions of the WBC.I think you need to justify your dislike of Jones based on a decision made by the WBC, Jones had nothing to do with that or he would of been named in the lawsuit along with the WBC, pretty lame reason to be dissin him I think.