Counter puncher or Stylish slugger?

lol, WTF is that Silva or Rutten? So BS was a MMA forum in the past?

My fault. My topic was a little vague :o No no. Just a quick reply form my part without thinking carefully.

wow I really have to be carefull with my post don't I! Can't have any grey areas or jose will move in for the kill. Guessed I misinterpreted sluggers with punchers. Those guys I listed, the fact that they "slugged" it out with their opponents when called upon sure helped with the growth of their respectable fan bases. It is more appealing to the crowd. I also said in my first post (b4 you got all excited to find an error in my misinterpretation) that you have to be good in either to be successfull (sell ppvs). Would a successfull counterpuncher be more appealing and likely draw a larger crowd than a successfull slugger? I think so. My fault. My topic was a little vague :o

**Oh yah jose, I forgot to ask you...slip or knockdown? lol

The best ones don't think those styles are mutally exclusive. They know how to do both, though many are known to be one or the other for the reason that they do one better than the other. Having said that, Rocky Marciano was an uncontrite and irrepressible slugger and won all his fights. Joe Frazier lived up to being "Smokin' Joe" and was seldom, if at all, seen to have stretched out to make a jab worthy of the name. Ali was basically a counter-puncher: the "Rope-a-Dope" illustrates that vividly; but he has been seen to have brought the fight to his many of his foes when the opportunity arose. Ali-Frazier I,II and III are classics partly because each was a meeting of two leading exponents of divergent styles. But in those meetings, there were times when Ali surprised Frazier and spectators, when he shifted styles and had spurts when he brought the fight to JOe which put Joe off balance. I think it's both knowing how to counter and slug as well as having the sense when to do one or the other that a fighter should learn so he can adapt to the styles of his opponents.

do you watch boxing? there good boxers caue they sure aren't sluggers Hearns= Boxer/Puncher Trinidad= Boxer/Puncher Morales= Boxer/Puncher MAB= slugger early/boxer late Morales=Boxer/puncher Hagler= Counter puncher Pac=Slugger Gatti=Slugger last I checked how manny PPV has Gatti headlined? what about Pac? There is a big difference between a boxer/puncher and a slugger. Watch guys like Morales, Tito, Hearns and Hagler box. They could box with the best of them. They all work/worked behind the jab and moved in circles and broke guys down. a slugger is a guy that is contanlty moving forward. Like I said.It doesn't matter what style you fight in. Charisma and personality is what sells PPV's wow I really have to be carefull with my post don't I! Can't have any grey areas or jose will move in for the kill. Guessed I misinterpreted sluggers with punchers. Those guys I listed, the fact that they "slugged" it out with their opponents when called upon sure helped with the growth of their respectable fan bases. It is more appealing to the crowd. I also said in my first post (b4 you got all excited to find an error in my misinterpretation) that you have to be good in either to be successfull (sell ppvs). Would a successfull counterpuncher be more appealing and likely draw a larger crowd than a successfull slugger? I think so.

In the stamina department... If you're the type of fighter who wants to last long with minimal effort, being a counter-puncher helps since you basically just react to what your opponent dishes out. A stylish slugger has a greater chance of tiring early. A slugger can give the most crowd satisfying performance though.

exactly its all about having charisma and personality thats whats gonna sell you

Out of all the fighters of today only Delahoya and Trinidad are going to put up the big numbers. Out of those two its Delahoya who brings in more PPV buys. It's the average viewer who helps make Oscar's fights sell so many PPV's. Morales and Barrera PPV only did about 300,000 buys. Pacquiao has never been a headliner on a PPV. Gatti has never been a headliner on a PPV. Both of those fighters wouldn't bring many buys. A fighter has to have something other than his skills to really sell a PPV. Trinidad has a very large fanbase that's why he sells PPV. Everyone who pays attention to sports know who Oscar is and will buy his fights. Tyson is Tyson really needs no explaination.

do you watch boxing? there good boxers caue they sure aren't sluggers Hearns= Boxer/Puncher Trinidad= Boxer/Puncher Morales= Boxer/Puncher MAB= slugger early/boxer late Morales=Boxer/puncher Hagler= Counter puncher Pac=Slugger Gatti=Slugger last I checked how manny PPV has Gatti headlined? what about Pac? There is a big difference between a boxer/puncher and a slugger. Watch guys like Morales, Tito, Hearns and Hagler box. They could box with the best of them. They all work/worked behind the jab and moved in circles and broke guys down. a slugger is a guy that is contanlty moving forward. Like I said.It doesn't matter what style you fight in. Charisma and personality is what sells PPV's

DLH is the best in boxing right now at selling PPV's and he aint a slugger Ray Leonard wasn't a slugger either charisma sells PPV's no matter what style you fight in DlH, Ray Leonard. That's 2. And neither are counterpunchers. Tyson, Trinidad, Duran, Hagler, Hearns, Pacquiao, Morales, MAB, Gatti...I can go on forever. Don't even try to tell me that counterpunchers will outsell sluggers in a paperview. Cuz there goes your future in marketing and sales. I agree that charisma also sells , but for the average boxing viewer, sluggers take the cake. B-hop has plenty of charisma, but just how much people are in-love with his style?

DLH is the best in boxing right now at selling PPV's and he aint a slugger Ray Leonard wasn't a slugger either charisma sells PPV's no matter what style you fight in

Oh yah, sluggers sell paperviews.

This is a tough question that would probably depend on what you prefer. I like guys like Duran and Trinidad who are more than sluggers but great pressure fighters. On your toes boxers and counter punchers get my respect too if the fight more than they move. A good boxer to me is someone who makes slight movements and punches at angles rather than run circles around the ring all night. They don't have to stay in the pocket all the time but punch and move to the side and release another punch. Not just jab move, move, move and jab again. I like seeing a fighter cut the ring off on a guy that's running though. Something about those pressure fighters make me like them more. Just seeing them coming forward and throwing their always underrated jabs, attacking to the body and breaking their opponents down is what I like seeing most of the time. I would go with a good pressure fighter.

Counter puncher. I have always molded myself after guys like James Toney and Floyd Mayweather..now of course I have nowhere near the talent, but I fight in that style with the shoulder roll or try to fight in that style is more like it.

If you were to adopt a boxing style which of the two would be your main style? Which style is better and why? Well that's tough, you have to be really good in either. Sylish slugger is my pick. When push comes to shove and you have to let it all hang out, at least you can make a stand. Puncher's chance. Once your beating a counter puncher, there's not much else the latter can do.