What is it about these big guys?

Questions I always ask myself in this dull division of today and the near distant future. What is it about these big guys that attract the people and the mega bucks? Looking back at these past current months even dipping into the past 10 years AT LEAST! Why are the heavyweights still the biggest draws in boxing? Granted the dlh vs hopkins fight was the biggest easily in the past 5 years. But why are people so enchanted with the heavyweight division? Most heavyweights (excluding the greats such as evander/muhammad ali/foreman/norton/frazier/lewis) are dull and bland, most heavyweights today are not carrying the mystique of yesterday? But what is the "enchantment" with the heavyweight division? The smaller fighters (160 and below) are getting more attention then before, but soon as the next great heavyweight arises, the lighter divisions will lose their spark and be right back up to the heavies. Lighter fighters are craftier/faster/hit hard and are beautiful to watch....Most of the time in heavyweight fights we get slow and out of shape fighters, who have no idea what they are doing in the ring to begin with. The smaller guys carry more knowledge into the ring nowadays then those big bafoons! Their isnt one heavyweight in the division right now who would even crack the top 10 even top 15 of great heavyweights, while I can easily name at least 10 or 15 lighter guys who come to mind.... With the likes of morales/barrera/pacquaio/dlh/hopkins/gatti/spinks/mayorga/judah and others it is exciting to watch as these divisions are so DEEP with REAL TALENT! Despite being the bigger draws today (smaller guys) their purses are not reflecting that, why are these guys that are selling out arenas and stadiums fighting for their life each and everytime out getting paid fragments of what mediocre heavyweight fighters get fighting in tool sheds/bars and ballrooms...... When everyday I have to remember John Ruiz and Vitali Klitschko are the top in the heavyweight division it sickens me...Prime Example Vitali Klitschko vs Danny Williams on december 13th (maybe?) will be on pay per view carrying a 40 dollar price tag...How do these 2 horrendous fighters (back off nicht) still get the recognition most fighters are dying for? What is it about these damn big guys that attract so many fans and still continue to get more recognition then the great fighters down south? If all I have to look forward to is a very green Joe Mesi and a ukranian knocking fat pieces of chopped liver out in a few rounds every 6 months in boxing, and the illusion that mike tyson is still in 1986...Put a fork in me, I am done and I hope the heavyweights are to.... It just sickens me! :mad:

Comments (20)

It's true, most of the fighters continued their careers. Gabe Ruelas, even though he fought on....was never the same again. At the time he beat Garcia, if anyone remembers, he really looked like he was gonna make a run at the top of the lb4lb list. He was fighting at a high level, & was starting to mature. The Garcia fight took away a lot of his spirit & his hunger, & he never looked so good again. When Mancini had gone through that, It just ripped him to shreds...I dont think he was ever the same after that in any aspect.

21y ago

jabsRstiff

I think that if that were me, it would really mess me up. I dont think I would be able to live with the misplaced guilt. Not something I would wish on anyone. It's true, most of the fighters continued their careers. Gabe Ruelas, even though he fought on....was never the same again. At the time he beat Garcia, if anyone remembers, he really looked like he was gonna make a run at the top of the lb4lb list. He was fighting at a high level, & was starting to mature. The Garcia fight took away a lot of his spirit & his hunger, & he never looked so good again.

21y ago

GranTorino

Surprisingly enough, A lot of them really did continue. I think that if that were me, it would really mess me up. I dont think I would be able to live with the misplaced guilt. Not something I would wish on anyone.

21y ago

GranTorino

oh yeah im really getting violent over here. Well you're about as big as one of my legs, so it wouldnt really matter if you wanted to anyway.

21y ago

spinksjinx

Damn, man. I suppose the boxers who did the killing never boxed again after that? Surprisingly enough, A lot of them really did continue.

21y ago

Sir_Jose

Oh how cute, an e-thug. oh yeah im really getting violent over here.

21y ago

GranTorino

GranTorino-Yes those are in ring deaths or where fighters died soon after being in the ring due to injuries that occured during the fight. Another is robinson vs Doyle, sad stuff. Damn, man. I suppose the boxers who did the killing never boxed again after that?

21y ago

spinksjinx

GranTorino-Yes those are in ring deaths or where fighters died soon after being in the ring due to injuries that occured during the fight. Another is robinson vs Doyle, sad stuff.

21y ago

GranTorino

Yes...Thats really me in the pic. Do you have a problem with that? Oh how cute, an e-thug.

21y ago

Sir_Jose

Wasnt really my intention to scare you. I was just telling you how it is. But judging from your halloween party pics, if that really is you in that pic, you should be scared of pretty much everyone. Jesus, man, eat something. Yes...Thats really me in the pic. Do you have a problem with that?

21y ago

GranTorino

"And what "ring tragedies" do you refer to?" Mancini-Kim Davila-Bejines Benn-McClellan Pintor-Owens Ruelas-Garcia There are countless others. Note : I am in no way glorifying these tragedies. They're all horrible. But, I'm using them as points to refute the misinformed notion that the big guys do more harm than the smaller guys. Hey jabs, when you mean "tragedies" do you mean.....actual tragedies? Like these dudes died in the ring or something? If so, gimme details please.

21y ago

GranTorino

Ooh im scared Wasnt really my intention to scare you. I was just telling you how it is. But judging from your halloween party pics, if that really is you in that pic, you should be scared of pretty much everyone. Jesus, man, eat something.

21y ago

jabsRstiff

21y ago

Sir_Jose

I could give less than a shit about your respect for my opion, big boy. Im not here to gain your respect, Im here to post my opinion. Get used to it. Ooh im scared

21y ago

GranTorino

Wrong.... Take a look at the best KO's this year....they're all from BELOW the heavyweight division. you are under the false belief that the big guys are more likely to score a KO, & you are wrong. Wait until this PPV on Nov. 13th. I am positive you will not only see the four WORST fights of the year....but that NONE of them end in a convincing knockout. Also....talk about "damage". The smaller guys inflict FAR MORE damage on each other. Look at the ring tragedies....virtually none are from the heavyweight division. Well I admit my technical knoweledge of boxing is not as thorough as you guys might be, but I think (hope) that the fights we see will be action packed. I enjoyed watching Golota whoop up on Byrd, so hopefully at least this one with Ruiz will have some. We'll have to see. And what "ring tragedies" do you refer to?

21y ago

GranTorino

and this is why no one respect your boxing opnion. You just showed a complete lack of knowledge and respect for the sport I could give less than a shit about your respect for my opion, big boy. Im not here to gain your respect, Im here to post my opinion. Get used to it.

21y ago

Sir_Jose

21y ago

jabsRstiff

Well, you have to remember, they dont offer what the smaller guys offer, they offer something completely different. They offer the prospect of serious bodily harm. They offer the possibility of satisfying all of our macabre curiosity. They offer damage. Pure and unadulterated. Thats the draw. The new boxing fan could, in my opinion, give a shit less about two little guys pecking on one another for an hour. But let two brutes get in there and start banging? Well shit, now we got a party! I hope I was able to articulate that correctly. Too much caffeine. Wrong.... Take a look at the best KO's this year....they're all from BELOW the heavyweight division. you are under the false belief that the big guys are more likely to score a KO, & you are wrong. Wait until this PPV on Nov. 13th. I am positive you will not only see the four WORST fights of the year....but that NONE of them end in a convincing knockout. Also....talk about "damage". The smaller guys inflict FAR MORE damage on each other. Look at the ring tragedies....virtually none are from the heavyweight division.

21y ago

GranTorino

Who's crying ? Whatever the reason, heavyweights just don't offer all that the smaller guys do. the action.....the variety of skills...the endurance.... the smaller guys have it all over the bigger guys. Well, you have to remember, they dont offer what the smaller guys offer, they offer something completely different. They offer the prospect of serious bodily harm. They offer the possibility of satisfying all of our macabre curiosity. They offer damage. Pure and unadulterated. Thats the draw. The new boxing fan could, in my opinion, give a shit less about two little guys pecking on one another for an hour. But let two brutes get in there and start banging? Well shit, now we got a party! I hope I was able to articulate that correctly. Too much caffeine.

21y ago

jabsRstiff

Hey man, I just call it like I see it. Deal with it. Fact of the matter is, you need different skills to fight at heavy to be successful. End of story. Dont cry to me and call me names just because you cant back up your point of view. Who's crying ? Whatever the reason, heavyweights just don't offer all that the smaller guys do. the action.....the variety of skills...the endurance.... the smaller guys have it all over the bigger guys.

21y ago