Aside from the bullshit ending, how do you think he did in the match?
Where do you see him going now?
Could he become an actual middleweight threat if he trains more at this weight class?
Or could he go down to welter and rule there?
oscar is one of tha greatest hall of famers
he went from a fuckin featherweight to middle weight
n u guys all think he should retire
i think he shouldnt and ya i dont think he should have a 3rd with mosley because we all know they robbed oscar
i think a rematch with tito
then wright,then sturm, then hopkins again
TELL THEM BRO. REMIND ME, HOW MANY BELTS HAS HE WON?
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Oscar couldn"t deal with the reach of the middleweights.
i agree wez
and thats why i think oscar should have a few matches against like other middleweights like robert alllen or william joppy,
u dont go to tha undisputed middleweight champ rite away
what
oscar is one of tha greatest hall of famers
he went from a fuckin featherweight to middle weight
n u guys all think he should retire
i think he shouldnt and ya i dont think he should have a 3rd with mosley because we all know they robbed oscar
i think a rematch with tito
then wright,then sturm, then hopkins again
rsl....
I saw everything you described. You are dead-on.
The people on here who are calling that fight "tactical", "scientific", or a "boxing match" are either Oscar fans or people who really don't know the meaning of the words in quotes, when applied to this sport.
me personally, i think he did well against hopkins for the first 3 rounds. in the 4th you could see he was starting to slow down, he didn't end with any fluries after that( his round stealing strategy), like the previous rounds.... but he's way to rich now to have that edge, and i don't care what anyone else says. when you got a shit load of cash, the last thing you really want to do is fight, you can talk about history and glory, honor, and all that. but you really lose the fighting edge, that hunger that makes you a balls out fighter when your rich, look at all the things he's accomplished in the ring (and out). maybe avenging his lost to tito would give him some fuel, but thats about it...
he really doesn't have anything to prove to anybody anymore, he's a great fighter and was a great champ, his plate is still full with boxing, just not with him in the ring anymore, as a fighter...
one example of a fighter who saw some cash and couldn't keep his edge was Vernon Forrest........
Oscar doesn't need to be in the middleweight division. He's too easily outpowered there. He couldn't hurt Sturm, and he was physically weak in comparison to Hopkins (fast as hell though, but still weak). I think Oscar should go back down and fight. There doesn't seem to be much of a future in the middleweight division for him, I don't think. If he is going to stay in the middleweights (which, I hope he doesn't), I would like for him to give Sturm a rematch.
Are you implying that you and half the board picked DLH because of media hype?
I noticed that alot of the members backed DLH after the hype.
I've never really cared for Hopkins so I picked DLH from the start.
Since I only had two choices. :p
Who's everyone? Half of boxingscene.com thought De La Hoya would win and a 2-1 underdog doesn't indicate that 'everyone' thought he'd look bad. This might be a minor point, but I see people already trying to revise history. Folks that thought DLH was the far superior boxer are now amazed that he was able to even compete with the man. Huh? What happened to all the comments about the hand and foot speed that was supposed to befuddle the old, slow-footed Hopkins?
Anyways, Oscar has options but him and Arum have to be much more flexible at the negotiating table to make them happen.
Before the media started hyping the event.
Everyone said how Hopkins would do this and that and we would see an early KO.
Everyone thought he would look badly against Hopkins but he held his own.
Who's everyone? Half of boxingscene.com thought De La Hoya would win and a 2-1 underdog doesn't indicate that 'everyone' thought he'd look bad. This might be a minor point, but I see people already trying to revise history. Folks that thought DLH was the far superior boxer are now amazed that he was able to even compete with the man. Huh? What happened to all the comments about the hand and foot speed that was supposed to befuddle the old, slow-footed Hopkins?
Anyways, Oscar has options but him and Arum have to be much more flexible at the negotiating table to make them happen.
I have no loyalty to STURM. I do have quite a sweet tooth for winning though! Remember this Wez: hope with yer heart but bet with your head!
:D Spoken like a true gambler, in this case though i would be betting with my head by routing for Bernard and my heart.
The executioner will be victorious
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STURM won the fight 8-4 in rounds. My old man who is a complete Delahoya FANATIC called me during the last round to tell me Oscar got trounced. When they announced the decision he was shocked and agreed with the crowd who screamed "BULLSHIT"! Oscar couldn't focus because he was getting a ramrod jab stuffed down his kisser every 5 seconds. STURM is going to beat Hopkins handily over the distance.....
:) I admire your loyalty towards Sturm but it's not going to happen ever. Bernard will be victorious if they ever meet.
STURM won the fight 8-4 in rounds. My old man who is a complete Delahoya FANATIC called me during the last round to tell me Oscar got trounced. When they announced the decision he was shocked and agreed with the crowd who screamed "BULLSHIT"! Oscar couldn't focus because he was getting a ramrod jab stuffed down his kisser every 5 seconds. STURM is going to beat Hopkins handily over the distance.....
STURM gave DLH a thorough beating. He was cheated out of an EASY victory. He administered far more punishment to DLH overall than Hopkins did. You haven't the SLIGHTEST idea about DLH's preparation for the fight so please keep your yapper void of lame excuses for Oscar. STURM is going to jab Hopkins' head off and make him look OLD. The end.
Excuse me but it doesn't take a genius to realise that Oscar was not happy with his performance OR his preparation for that fight. He knew he could have done better and the rest of the world did too. Sturm put up a valiant effort with his jab and i give him credit for it but that wasn't a focused Oscar. I don't care if you think i'm making excuses, that is a fact. In all honesty i thought Sturm had JUST won that fight but only by a point or two but at the end of the day the judges get the final decision. Sturm looks promising and he may put up a challenge in the middleweight division BUT only when Bernard retires in my opinion.
STURM is Hopkins' MANDATORY!
P.S. Has Hopkins really ever had a "prime"?
Good point on hopkins prime lol...He has a few shotty fights and then one megafight and then some low caliber opponents again and another megafight....
Hopkins stated he wants to make a 20th title defense and then go for the big fights....Hopkins has never been one to avoid mandatories, will definatly be interesting if the sturm fight came off. I would hope hopkins wouldnt lose just to see jones vs hopkins though.