How far could a boxer go without a promoter?

pacman no need to market and promote himself.. everyone calls him out. (promoter left the room.)

George Groves didn’t really have a promoter throughout his career, bounced around a few. Most are absolute dodge pots! Higgins springs to mind! Also know a boxer who is owed fortunes by Kelly Maloney and Warren has trouble putting on big shows as he owes a fortune to the Met Police which he keeps trying to avoid paying! They’ve refused to police his events!

Yes a fighter can get the fights he/she needs and wants without being signed to a promoter.

Maybe you dudes are starting to get the idea.

Honestly i dont care how good a fighter is,if he doesnt have the right promoter he is not getting anywhere!

Wasn't he also promoted by some Nation of Islam guy? The "honorable" Herbert Muhammed. I nearly choked on "honorable" BTW. :rolleyes:

A number did succeed in kicking off their careers without promoters. Ray Leonard, after the Olympics, got together his own group of trusted people and went around selling himself at the start of his career. He closed his own TV deal and signed individual contracts with venue owners on revenue-sharing arrangements (tickets and residuals sales). Don King,though he indeed gave Ali his biggest paydays, came late into Ali's life. Ali was already a made celebrity when King joined his camp. As Cassius Clay, Ali was set off to a good start after winning Olympic gold by a syndicate of businessmen from his hometown of Louisville who signed up Angelo Dundee to train the young Clay. But it was Ali who made himself a star, the biggest ever. Nobody but Ali could have invented Ali. Thomas Hearns relied less on promoters than he did on his trainers at the Kronk gym, primarily, Steward, who, though sometimes engaged in promotions, was basically a trainer of champions. But are King, Arum and the other promoters really the powers? Aren't Viacom (Showtime), Turner (HBO) and Fox the triumvirate that, at bottom, really controls global boxing? The networks shell out the big bucks without which neither King nor Arum, much less their lesser ilks, can put together any card worth mention! NBC, CBS and ABC ceased to be big players in boxing decades ago! And boxing people in Europe, the rest of the Americas, Asia and Africa need to make their pilgrimage to good ole USA to be near the boxing gods. Have you noticed that while the WBA and WBC are basically dominated by latinos in their official hierarchies, they too make the pilgrimage to the US? Without US TV, there could be no global boxing of the type and scale (camp and glitz, included)we witnessed last Saturday and in all of the recent years. Ali and Leonard were media powers spawned by the then nascent worldwide TV as much as they were boxing greats. Their celebrity went way beyond what any single boxing venue, or any collection of boxing venues, can handle. What we have are descendants of what they started. The bigger--HUGE!-- money is in TV not in the sites, be they in Vegas, LA, NY or wherever; it cannot therefore be in the hands of promoters or site owners. And, the bigger the money, the louder it talks. The louder it talks, the closer fightgame characters pay attention!

King by far for the fighters above 200 Arum for 160 and below King absolutely hates the little guys, look at the list of judah's past fights *ouch* Warren is just a little bitch and is afraid to take risks, I wouldnt say he is crooked or anything (although no doubt he is.) But he is the michael acri of england...He is very protective of his fighters and puts crappy opponents in with his meal tickets and collect small paydays and keep him going day by day rather then putting his stable in with top talent. E.G: Ricky Hatton All of them are crooked in their own ways....Their isnt one good boxing promoter.... You also forgot Dibella *ouch*

I think so, I think the Islamic people represented him through their handlers. Who got Ali his biggest pay day? The Don! Who's worse? Warren King Arum Murad

I think so, I think the Islamic people represented him through their handlers. Who got Ali his biggest pay day? The Don!

Don King was for the jungle. Wasn't he also promoted by some Nation of Islam guy?

Don King was for the jungle.

Who was Mohammad Ali's promoter?

Manny Pacquiao has a promoter and look no fights for him! Once your name gets around, the need for a promoter diminishes.

It first of all depends on how smart the boxer is to start and it depends who hes with. Ususally guys with family in the corner like their fathers do not do well without promoters because their fathers dont want to see them fail. thats why Roy Jones had to get rid of dealing with his dad. I believe if the boxer is smart and good at boxing then he can find and get any fight he wants. Remeber if your good then people want to see you fight whether you have a promoter or not.

Depends on the fighter and would this fighter be starting off with no promoter like turning pro right away? Would they create their own promotion company or just be a free agent? Most likely probably not unless they are established or have a promotional company..... Also sure look at Bernard Hopkins, he didnt get that 8 figure payday from having don king in his corner.