Can you be considered an ATG when these are your 10 best wins?

[JAB5239]

Just curious as to what boxingscene thinks about these fighters and if having them as your best wins is enough to make a fighter an all time great heavyweight?

Peter - Crude slugger who went tooth and nail with a former middleweight

Adamek - Former lightheavyweight who's best win at heavy was Arreola

Arreola - Has never beaten another top 10 heavyweight

Donald - His career best win is over a ten years past his best Tim Witherspoon

Hide - His best win was over 11-1 Michael Bentt

Sanders - Never beat a top ten fighter before or after Wlad. Was stopped by Nate Tubbs

Williams - Come on, this is a guy who lost to Julius Francis

Kirk Johnson - Possessed skills but in his biggest fights always came in fat and out of shape

Gomez - Former cruiserweight who beat a few guys thought to be decent but were either past it or went on to accomplish nothing

Solis - Talented but still a novice by professional standards. Ridiculed for never being in shape

[daggum]

no those are the biggest load of bums i've ever seen. no heavyweight would be ever be taken seriously if they had that resume. i'm glad we don't have guys like that around today.

[JAB5239]

no those are the biggest load of bums i've ever seen. no heavyweight would be ever be taken seriously if they had that resume. i'm glad we don't have guys like that around today.

Well there are some people, even on this very forum, who think that resume is good enough for greatness.

[BostonGuy]

Why did I know this was gonna be a thread about Vitali?....

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I have said this many times,,, The klits get penalized because they dominate and will never fight each other...

It would be like if frazier and ali were brothers and never fought, or holyfield and lewis..

Combined they have beaten everyone, which makes a fight between the 2 the biggest of the era but it will never happen so both are penalized for not having that huge signature win.....
I cant really say they have dodged anybody, they have taken on all comers, and have dominated everybody they fought.....

Vit's resume is not as good as wlad's, but vitali never been ko'd like wlad was.... they are not in the same class as holy, tyson, lewis, bowe, frazier, ali, holmes. foreman, but better than moorer, golata,ruiz, byrd,morrison, mercer,chuvalo, cooney, norton....

[BattlingNelson]

Define ATG.

[dan_cov]

I don't think Vitali is an ATG based on resume but an ATG head-to-head.

His resume is rubbish and tbf I expect many may disagree but I feel his best win is probably a nearing 40yr old Gomez. Maybe Solis if his fat ass gets in shape and he starts taking his career seriously.

For me, no Vitali's resume sucks.

I've never really got the hype and personally never have fought any version of Vitali is anywhere a patch on Wladimir.
Okay he has a better chin and is more awkward. Does feck all else better for me, doesn't have the resume, skillset or the accomplishments.

Wlad >Vitali all day for me.

[sugarsmosley]

If somehow Wlad fought Vitali, would the winner then be considered an ATG?

[JAB5239]

I don't think Vitali is an ATG based on resume but an ATG head-to-head.

His resume is rubbish and tbf I expect many may disagree but I feel his best win is probably a nearing 40yr old Gomez. Maybe Solis if his fat ass gets in shape and he starts taking his career seriously.

For me, no Vitali's resume sucks.

I've never really got the hype and personally never have fought any version of Vitali is anywhere a patch on Wladimir.
Okay he has a better chin and is more awkward. Does feck all else better for me, doesn't have the resume, skillset or the accomplishments.

Wlad >Vitali all day for me.

I actually agree with every single thing you've written here.

[JAB5239]

Why did I know this was gonna be a thread about Vitali?....

What, you don't care to discuss it? Does that mean you think it's not ATG worthy?