Wilder-Szpilka averages 500K viewers

[bigdunny1]

After he got shattered he fought Carlos Molina and Julio Diaz. He wasn't signed with Haymon during those fights was he? The trend began when he got KTFO'd. Not when he signed with Haymon.

Plus Porter has fought Devon Alexander (on short notice), Kell Brook, Adrien Broner and now Keith Thurman. Why? Because he wants the biggest fights out there. If Khan had the same mindset as Porter he too wold be taking on bigger fights.

He took 2 tune ups after a loss and was set to fight for a world title UNTIL haymon came along. Then it's been pointless fights with no loss he was rebounding from as an excuse anymore. And Porter upset Alexander and upset Broner. He was not a blue chip fighter in Haymon stable. Credit to Porter for beating the bigger named fighters and proving haymon wrong. Because if Haymon had his way Porter would of lost each fight. I don't think Thurman, Khan, Stevenson or any other top guy Haymon has been protecting simply doesn't want tough fights. I think they take the fights Haymon tells them too. You think Thurman wanted Collazo? I know he didn't because he said he was handed a list with one name on it for who he could fight and it said Collazo. He even said he didn't want to fight Collazo but that's who Haymon lined up. Yet even when the fighters themselves say this is going on you blame them and not the mastermind who is setting all this up? SMH

If Haymon wanted he could have all his top fighters fighting each other but they aren't and it's not because the fighters don't want it.

[MrRolltide91]

i was just thinking how awesome it would have been if this card was on NBC instead of Showtime and as soon as the game was over, they jumped right into the main event


national crowd buzzing after an awesome football game...they cut away and go straight into a raucous crowd...then a great fight happens that finishes in a spectacular KO

then the post fight circus that ensued...it would have been brilliant

That would have been a good idea

[-PBP-]

He took 2 tune ups after a loss and was set to fight for a world title UNTIL haymon came along.

Then it's been pointless fights with no loss he was rebounding from as an excuse anymore. And Porter upset Alexander and upset Broner. He was not a blue chip fighter in Haymon stable. Credit to Porter for beating the bigger named fighters and proving haymon wrong. Because if Haymon had his way Porter would of lost each fight.

Broner was the underdog or at worst, as the fight got closer it became 50/50. He got tired of Broner's diva antics so matched him up tough with Porter to prove himself. And Porter has been on Showtime for years and has a superb amateur record. You are absolutely wrong here.

You think Thurman wanted Collazo?

Yes

And other fighters

If Haymon wanted he could have all his top fighters fighting each other

NO PROMOTER IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING DOES THIS

but they aren't and it's not because the fighters don't want it.

It absolutely does. And its been proven by the fact that certain fighters in his stable were given tough fights when they demanded them. Broner/Maidana, I gave you the Porter example,

[bopbopbbe]

NO PROMOTER IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING DOES THIS

While that's true, the one thing I must say the UFC is killing boxing in is matchmaking. There's is zero ducking and you will almost never see the champion not fight the top contender in the division period.

If the PBC is trying to replicate the UFC, they are doing a terrible job at it.

Ofcourse the difference is the UFC has virtually all the top MMA fighters while PBC doesnt.

[bigdunny1]

:Broner was the underdog or at worst, as the fight got closer it became 50/50. He got tired of Broner's diva antics so matched him up tough with Porter to prove himself. And Porter has been on Showtime for years and has a superb amateur record. You are absolutely wrong here.

It's hard to remember this because of how far and fast Alexander has fallen. But he was the replacement after Khan pulled out and Porter was a big underdog in this fight. And for the Broner fight Broner got first name billing, got a catchweight that was meant to drain Porter. Broner was the bigger star and bigger draw and Haymon set it up for him to win with the catchweight. Porter was schooled by Brook and was set up to be beaten by Broner to re-establish him again as a legit top fighter. Broner failed. Credit Porter but he's been thrown to the wolves and set up to lose fights against Haymon's bigger names.

[-PBP-]

While that's true, the one thing I must say the UFC is killing boxing in is matchmaking. There's is zero ducking and you will almost never see the champion not fight the top contender in the division period.

If the PBC is trying to replicate the UFC, they are doing a terrible job at it.

Ofcourse the difference is the UFC has virtually all the top MMA fighters while PBC doesnt.

This is why. But PBC's best fighters in each division have taken tough fights. As an example:

118: Kameda/McDonnell, Warren/Payano
122: Frampton/Quigg (Frampton is a Haymon fighter)
126: Mares/Santa Cruz, Gonzalez/Russell
130: Martinez/Salido
135: Barthelemy/Shafikov
140: Garcia/Peterson
147: Thurman/Porter
154: Lara/Trout already fought but no one wants to see it again
160: Quillin/Jacobs
168: DeGale/Bute
175: Stevenson/Fonfara already fought and a rematch is in store
Cruiser: Not a major presence
Heavy: We'll see what he does with Wilder

If you look at that list those are just about the best fighters he has in each division.

[Scipio2009]

It's funny; when Haymon first launched PBC, some posters said it would probably fail. Others staunchly defended Haymon, saying PBC would be good for boxing & detractors must not be true fans of the sport. I'm not hearing so much about how Haymon & PBC are good for the sport anymore.

Because you're a hater and it's not worth talking about Haymon to haters any longer, to be blunt about it.

PBC of FS1 (Toe-to-Toe Tuesday) delivered a fun night of fights, with most of the commercials between the rounds actually featuring commercials, yet the haters will ignore that fact {Outside of a handful of FS1 promotional spots and maybe 3 Corona filler commercials, everything else sold}.

Across the entire slate of PBC channels and fight cards, the shows have been better placed, to draw better live crowds, the commercials been selling consistently across the PBC channels, and the fights have actually been good fights for the most part.

You compare that to the fights and fight cards put on by everyone else that's working to deliver boxing content and PBC blew the field out of the water.

Garcia-Guerrero is going to be on primetime on FOX this Saturday, with Thurman-Porter being on, in primetime, on CBS with the NCAA Tournament as its lead-in.

When those numbers pop, as is expected, I doubt that you'd be on here to acknowledge that either.

[-PBP-]

Only issue with that synopsis is that that isn't really the path being laid forward, for anyone really. Garcia-Guerrero happens in January, Thurman-Porter happens in March, and that's about it:

Understand that. It was a hypothetical to show that if he matched up all of his best fighters in the span of a year, there would be no fights left.

-Sammy Vasquez Jr is heading down a three-fight path to being WBC 147 mandatory challenger, and Errol Spence Jr is heading down a two-fight path to becoming IBF 147 mandatory challenger.

-Amir Khan isn't going to take the fight straight-away, and Berto-Perterson still needs to happen March/April, so Danny Garcia is likely to have a voluntary defense in May (vs Ray Robinson, in a Philly vs Philly fight, or vs Chris Algieri, in fighting a New Yorker in Brooklyn, both make sense).

-Thurman-Porter happening in March, for the WBA 147 title, moves off any next title defense to July/August, with the only barrier being that said opponent has to be rated in the WBA's top 15 (see no reason why, with another win, Victor Ortiz can't get himself into the WBA's top 15; and there's always the chance that Marcos Maidana can be coaxed back).

-Kell Brook, in making his mandatory defense in March (and with eyes on getting that Amir Khan fight in the Summer), likely won't be mandated to fight Errol Spence Jr until Feb/Mar 2017; with another defense in Sheffield, the Khan fight at Wembley, and likely a third fight to close out the year, he'd be 6/7 defenses into his title run, 12 years into his run at welterweight, and likely be ready to go to 154 (Liam Smith seems like a relatively easy pick, with the WBO giving rather wide discretion for defenses).

Winter:
Garcia/Guerrero {WBC title}
Vasquez/Martinez {semi-final eliminator}

Spring:
Thurman/Porter {WBA title}
Spence/Rico Mueller or Jeff Horn Frankie Gavin {IBF eliminator}
Berto/Peterson
Brook/Bizier {IBF title}
Khan/Manyuchi {maintaining WBC ranking}
Garcia/Algieri {WBC title}

Summer:
Vasquez/Barrionuevo-Cosio winner {final eliminator}
Brook/Khan {IBF title}

Fall:
Thurman/Ortiz {WBA title}
Garcia/Peterson-Berto winner {WBC title}
Spence/Chaves {IBF mandatory challenger}
Guerrero/Lopez

Winter:
Vasquez/Ray Robinson {WBC mandatory challenger}
Spence fights for IBF 147 title
etc

Not all the fights are knock-down, drag-out scraps, but there enough good fights mixed in, to keep things going, before the start of the consolidation of titles that, to me, would make far more sense in 2017 (which will likely stretch into 2018, to work out all of the logistics).

And this makes perfect sense. But the HBO network warriors will only focus on the **** fights on that list and ignore the fact that his top fighters are taking on tough fights in between.

[SUBZER0ED]

Because you're a hater and it's not worth talking about Haymon to haters any longer, to be blunt about it.

PBC of FS1 (Toe-to-Toe Tuesday) delivered a fun night of fights, with most of the commercials between the rounds actually featuring commercials, yet the haters will ignore that fact {Outside of a handful of FS1 promotional spots and maybe 3 Corona filler commercials, everything else sold}.

Across the entire slate of PBC channels and fight cards, the shows have been better placed, to draw better live crowds, the commercials been selling consistently across the PBC channels, and the fights have actually been good fights for the most part.

You compare that to the fights and fight cards put on by everyone else that's working to deliver boxing content and PBC blew the field out of the water.

Garcia-Guerrero is going to be on primetime on FOX this Saturday, with Thurman-Porter being on, in primetime, on CBS with the NCAA Tournament as its lead-in.

When those numbers pop, as is expected, I doubt that you'd be on here to acknowledge that either.

And if they don't pop, as has been the trend, you'll be here making some lame excuses to defend Haymon. Remember though, the AFC & NFC championships are on Sunday.

[kafkod]

Oh so because you dont watch means it has no market or fans...wait i already said this.

Sold out Target Center. They have a market.

And i have friends who watched it cause they love basketball and dont really watch boxing

Kafkod's law: People who don't watch boxing have zero effect on the TV ratings for any particular boxing match or promotion.