Barrera Not Worried About Khan's Physical Advantages

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  • Dave Rado
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    #21
    Originally posted by lest26
    not too sure a chin can improve, but im not just hating he dose have talent but he aint world title matarial, i think a solid chin is essential for that.
    Chins can improve. Ali was chinny in his early career and had a superb chin later on. In his late career, Shavers hit Ali with everything he had and couldn't knock him down, yet in his early career he was saved by the bell after a single left hook from Henry Cooper, who was not a particularly big puncher.

    Khan's whole body has changed dramatically since joining Roach. He used to have spindly legs and too much muscle on his back. Now his legs are sturdier and his back is leaner and more flexible. This will improve both his punch-resistance and his upper body movement.

    He's also been doing conditioning exercises (neck etc) that may help his punch resistance.

    He used to keep his hands low and his chin in the air. He now keeps his hands up and his chin tucked in much more.

    Khan had never been taught how to block or roll with punches properly, before Roach took him on. He's been working intensively on that with Roach. Also his stance used to be all wrong, and Roach has been working on that, too - and stance has a lot to do with punch resistance.

    He also didn't used to clinch when hurt, so that once he was hurt it was easy to hit him with follow-up punches. He's been working on that, too.

    His tactics in general used to be appalling - he has a superb jab but he rarely used it properly before teaming up with Roach. He used to swing so wildly that he moved straight onto punches, which has the effect of greatly increasing their effective power - analogous to two cars in a head-on collision. The effect on him of Prescott's jab is over-stated - Nigel Benn was knocked out cold by a jab against Michael Watson, and Watson wasn't a great puncher. If you're moving onto a hard jab and don't see it coming, it can do damage.

    He has sparred intensively with Pacquiao, and stood up well to his punches, reportedly. Not the same as fighting Pac for real, obviously, but Pac hits pretty hard even in sparring.
    Last edited by Dave Rado; 03-07-2009, 06:02 PM.

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      #22
      Originally posted by lest26
      kevin mitchel, john murray, jamie moore are of a higher standard than khan
      Kevin Mitchell is a super-featherweight, Jamie Moore is a light middleweight. I agree they deserve more publicity. I don't think they have nearly as much potential as Khan but it's true they are at a higher level than he is, in their respective weight divisions, currently.

      John Murray hasn't fought anyone yet, he's been even more over-protected than Khan has. His best win so far was against someone rated #98 by boxrec; and he looked limited in that fight. It's not his fault that he's been over-protected, that's down to Hennessy, but still, he's done nothing to justify being mentioned here so far.
      Last edited by Dave Rado; 03-07-2009, 04:57 PM.

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        #23
        I saw a clip of Barrera training last night, and I have to say hes looking in great shape - much better than I expected. Khans definitely going to have some trouble in this fight, and unfortunately for him this gamble looks increasingly like its not going to pay off. BUT you never know in boxing so we will see...

        EDIT: Found part of the clip I was talking about, he looked more impressive in the full clip but whatever..

        Last edited by - JCHING -; 03-07-2009, 05:03 PM.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
          Agree, the only chance Barrera have its a lucky punch really. I know Khan have a china chin, but his overall skills are better than barreras at this moment. i think Khan wins a easy UD, and I wont be surpeise, if Khan KTFO barrera!!!!!!!!!!!!
          There are no lucky punches in boxing.

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          • celtic tiger
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            #25
            roach is a great trainer no doubt but not even he cant fix a glass jaw, so for me barrera wins by ko

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              #26
              Originally posted by jching
              I saw a clip of Barrera training last night, and I have to say hes looking in great shape - much better than I expected. Khans definitely going to have some trouble in this fight, and unfortunately for him this gamble looks increasingly like its not going to pay off. BUT you never know in boxing so we will see...

              EDIT: Found part of the clip I was talking about, he looked more impressive in the full clip but whatever..

              khan is ****ed

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                #27
                I've changed my thoughts on this fight,

                Khan will look like a junior middleweight come fight night,

                He is a ridiculously big lightweight. He's toooooo big.

                Somehow he was matched with a lightweight who was even bigger in Prescott.

                Khan's chin is bad, but if he gets a rhythm on his jab and keeps it at range he wins. Simple. Too damn big.

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                • Dave Rado
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                  #28
                  There's a very interesting interview with Khan and Roach here. Some highlights:
                  “Freddie is one of those coaches who likes things to be perfect,” Khan explains, wiping off the sweat. “The work we have just done on the pads was exactly how my fight is going to be against Marco Antonio Barrera, hitting and dipping under his punches, not waiting there to get hit back. A few times I took shots on my gloves and Freddie said, ‘What’s the point in being there? Don’t be there. You have the footwork to move’.

                  “Meanwhile, Michael Moorer, a former world heavyweight champion who is Freddie’s assistant, is looking at my feet and lower body. If I’m reaching over to throw the right hand or the jab, if I’m going over my front foot, he pulls me up and I’m learning all the time. It’s like being at university.”

                  “Amir made a young man’s mistake,” Roach maintains. “If you watch the knockout in slow motion, you see it. It wasn’t so much that the other guy was a big puncher, it was more that Amir ran right into the shot, full force.

                  “When I watched the fight the first time I thought it was a right hand which caused it but it was the left hook. When Amir throws a left hook to the body he has a tendency to reach for it and when he reached for it he dropped his hands, sending out an invitation. He’s not doing that any more.

                  “I know that you can’t teach a chin to take a punch better but you can teach defence and you can teach fundamentals. Amir wants to learn, he has great fundamentals now and great speed, so why not use this? I’m not talking about hand speed, I’m talking about foot speed. Barrera won’t find Amir all night long. If he does, I’ll be mad at him [Khan].”

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                  • El Chicano
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                    #29
                    I don't know what to think of this fight. I think I'd rather watch Friends.

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                    • Pugilistic™
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                      #30
                      I want Barrera to win but at this stage he just doesn't have what it takes.

                      People keep bringing up that he had a close fight with Marquez and went the distance with Pacquiao only two years ago but if they had actually watched his two recent fights at lightweight they would see that he is even more past it, His movement looked sluggish, his handspeed is slower and he has no pop on his punches anymore.

                      Khan at this stage is too big and too fast for Barrera.

                      He should win a clear decision.

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