After watching the Floyd-Oscar replay 5 times Now

[shawn_]

The problem with the way that alot of people score profights is they score it like the amature system. Punches mean nothing if they have no effect. Professional boxing is about controling your opponent. Floyd did land quite a few clean jab (although most of them were blocked) they were not effective. They did not back Oscar up, they did not keep Oscar off of him.

When I first watched the fight, I scored it for Mayweather 7-5. I watched the fight 2 more times and came up with 7-5 Oscar both times.

Watching the fight back again Mayweather didnt do nearly as good as I though he did. The compubox stats are way way way off. Oscar picked off and blocked the majority of mayweathers punches, and he actualy used the jab alot more than I remember.

[ME123]

Scoring the fight- I had it 115-113 for Oscar.
He was aggressive and more active..
I have a QUESTION to the floyd fans? How many of you thought Trinidad beat Oscar and please be honest?
This was Oscar and Trinidad fight except for the fact that Oscar never tired and was the agressure. At one point they had Oscar throwing 108 punches in one round while Floyd threw 32 or something like that.

[oldgringo]

I had Floyd winning...landing cleaner punches later in the fight. Through 8 I think I had it even. It was a good effort by Oscar, I wanted him to win, he just couldn't get away from floyds pot-shots when he started to fatigue.

I enjoyed the fight though.

[oldgringo]

And yes in some of those rounds the punch stats seemed way off. Almost like it was scoring punches for Floyd that Oscar blocked. In one round it was like 21-9 punch total for Floyd and I was ****ing shocked.

Floyd still landed better shots down the stretch. Too bad Oscar couldn't streamline a gameplan in the second half of the fight. Every jab he landed physically moved Floyd.

[fluent2332]

It would be different if oscar was landing ****, but he wasnt. his good shots were few and far between, he did a great job blocking alot of floyds shots too but floyd landed more and at a much higher %. those flurries that got the crowd excited obviously werent doin ****, thats why floyd was smiling. oscars attempt to steal rounds was blatantly obvious. this wasnt ali/frazier 1 where frazier was landing power shots on the speed boxer, oscar was not connecting. i had it a close fight, 115-113 for mayweather, but no way oscar won.

[oldgringo]

It would be different if oscar was landing ****, but he wasnt. his good shots were few and far between, he did a great job blocking alot of floyds shots too but floyd landed more and at a much higher %. those flurries that got the crowd excited obviously werent doin ****, thats why floyd was smiling. oscars attempt to steal rounds was blatantly obvious. this wasnt ali/frazier 1 where frazier was landing power shots on the speed boxer, oscar was not connecting. i had it a close fight, 115-113 for mayweather, but no way oscar won.

i agree with this. spot on.

[pbftxrs316]

And yes in some of those rounds the punch stats seemed way off. Almost like it was scoring punches for Floyd that Oscar blocked. In one round it was like 21-9 punch total for Floyd and I was ****ing shocked.

Floyd still landed better shots down the stretch. Too bad Oscar couldn't streamline a gameplan in the second half of the fight. Every jab he landed physically moved Floyd.

that 21-9 round was the 5th round, and it was an accurate compubox punch stat that round because i actually went back and watched that round in slow motion and counted the landed punches by both fighters and those stats were no off at all.

[MetalVomit]

Posted this in the wrong thread.

I gave Oscar rounds 2,3,6,7,8 and 12. That was watching the fight sober. Watching it drunk out of my ****ing mind, I thought Floyd won. A case can be made for both guys, and a draw would have been acceptable. Let's not forget, Shane Mosley was outlanded by about 90 punches in his second fight with De La Hoya, and he got the nod, so if Oscar would have gotten the decision, it wouldnt have been all that suprising.

[bdevils]

this is getting ridiculous. i normally can accept someones opinion even if it differs from mine BUT i just can't on this one. there is no way in hell oscar won this fight. i watched the fight two more times today and i just can't see how anyone with even half decent vision could of thought oscar won. he flurried here and there missing the majority of his shots while floyd was tagging him with clean shots and while oscar may not of been hurt his knees did buckle in the 5th and 11th and was seemingly more affected from floyd's shots more than floyd was from his.

[freedom213]

I completely disagree with the punch stats the 1st 8 rounds of the fight. I trying my hardest to look for Floyd's countershots and all i saw was Oscar picking off many of Floyd's punches from rounds 1 thru 8. Neither fighter really landed solid shots up until that point,but Oscar was the aggressor and landed some body shots along the ropes .so you have to give him some of those close rounds. Floyd was not counterpunching as well as some think. Remember im just talking about the 1st 8 rounds.

I thought Oscar won rounds 2 ,3 ,4 ,6 ,8 with rounds 9 and 12 a tossup

Floyd - Rounds - 1 ,5 ,10 ,11 with rounds 9 and 12 a tossup

What Floyd did in rounds 10 and 11 ,that was not happening from round 1 thru 8. Oscar was picking off a lot of his punches,and Floyd also was not as aggressive those eariler rounds. Oscar wins this fight with ease had he jabbed more in rounds 9 ,10 ,11. Even if it was just 2 of those rounds,and he wins a decision.

I agree somewhat with you but Give FLoyd credit for staying disciplined and fighting smart.

Punch Stats were off a bit IMO also, I scored it :

after seeing it again
Oscar rounds 2 ,4 ,6 ,7, 8 with round 12 even
PBF rounds 1, 3, 5, 9,10,11, with round 12 even

I really thought Oscar fought the wrong fight. He should have been on his toes more jabbing and picking his spots to change gears and corner PBF,,, always jabbing to make floyd come forward and sqaure up. Pressing like he did should have been used in spurts so he wouldnt have gotten so tired. There was a point in the fight maybe round 7 where Oscar is busting Floyd in the left shoulder and by the way Mayweather was reacting it bothered him. If Oscar would/could have continued attacking like that he would have had a great chance to slow PBF down and catch floyd. But he got tired and couldnt simple as that. This fight really showed me that a number of top guys could compete with Floyd and have a chance at winning this fight. Floyd should be looked at as very beatable from here on out when his sham retirement money building tactic ends.