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  1. turnedup
    03-15-2013 04:40 AM
    turnedup
    Are you serious kid...I even called him the superior boxer but I have an agenda against Marquez? Seriously..i'm beyond speechless right now son. How do I praise a man and my only tarnish on him was his association with a PED user..didn't even say he was on them said his association. Just like I would critique anyone working with Conte..but I have an agenda. What agenda would that be? That I didn't take the time out to critique Pacquaio on an article about another boxer? I even went as far as to say a 5th fight makes zero sense but somehow I have an agenda. Do me a favor fam..just ignore anything I post because it seems like your personal issue with me is clouding your perception something awful these days. Just because you and I don't see eye to eye on Floyd you take that as a sign i'm a pacquiao fan when i'm actually not but it's cool. Peace on to you.
  2. ShoulderRoll
    03-14-2013 06:52 PM
    ShoulderRoll
    I couldn't let that one go by, sorry. Maybe if I had seen you be just as critical of Pacquiao for not testing then I could say that you're being even handed.

    But it seems like you have an agenda against JMM or something.
  3. turnedup
    03-14-2013 02:30 PM
    turnedup
    Seriously bro get a grip, couldn't just disagree with me in thread or for that matter respect my right to an opinion. Fall back cuz as you've noticed i've not given you red K despite finding difference with your opinions why? Because I respect your right to an opinion, something I recommend you start doing as well.
  4. turnedup
    01-10-2013 02:08 AM
    turnedup
    What's the point in taking a test when you dictate the terms and the outcome. If I say test me for HGH but not for ampetamines..is that a legit test? Nope it's not and that's the point you are missing regarding usada. Think on that a hot minute..this is why I have such an issue with GBP and their 3 public coverups in less than 2 years. The way they did Winky Wright dirty is somethign I cannot overlook, ever..regardless of who is in their roster. A guy not taking a test just doesn't give a flying leap, but a guy taking a test where his promoter dictates what gets tested is the same exact thing as not taking a test. You think that persons promoters is going to say test for everything when they have the ability to say don't test for this or that? Anytime a promoter negotiates terms for testing, something is definitely up. We cannot have a clean sport even with the best of testing becasue these guys (heredia/conte) have made millions beating those tests for years, why even bother testing?
  5. ShoulderRoll
    01-10-2013 12:32 AM
    ShoulderRoll
    See that makes no sense to me: how are you going to say that you suspect those who use USADA more than those who don't take them? Stricter testing is better than the regular commission testing. Period.

    But you are certainly entitled to your opinion. At least you have given it some thought. I'll try to give you the benefit of the doubt next time before giving red K.

    It's just that there are so many trolls and biased posters here these days that it's hard to keep track of the ones who are being sincere.
  6. turnedup
    01-10-2013 12:24 AM
    turnedup
    Again didn't I specify both conte and heredia in my post? Ironically it seems the only thing that jumped out at you in that entire post was the name "marqez" and not even the fact I stated "I'm not accusing him of anything". in regards to Floyd i'm not talking about Xylocaine because he'd only use that during camp and on fight night..i'm talking about in between fights..for healing purposes. In regards to donaire..aI don't care for him.I criticize everyone bro...you really need to stop associating me as a fan boy..I use Jack Johnson as my avatar for a reason..i'm a longgggg time fan and historian of the sport..these dudes today play the p.r. game..boxing is rigged and dirty as hell and I suspect those asking for testing via usada more than those who don't take them..GBP is faking the funk with testing...if boxers really wanted a clean sport you'd see them asking the commissions to ban both conte and heredia but they aren't and that speaks volumes to me.
  7. ShoulderRoll
    01-09-2013 10:18 PM
    ShoulderRoll
    USADA is flawed but it's still better than any testing Pacquiao has ever done. And xylocaine is not illegal in Nevada so no, Floyd is not a cheater.

    People complain about Heredia and say that he knows how to beat the tests but doesn't the same thing apply to Conte? He was the man who hooked people up with "the clear and the cream" after all. So what does it matter if Donaire does year round testing? For all I know Conte could be giving him stuff to beat the tests too.

    All I'm saying is that people need to be fair and criticize everybody who is suspicious NOT just the fighters they have a grudge against.
  8. turnedup
    01-09-2013 09:42 PM
    turnedup
    don't care much for donaire, he's doing year round testing. And yes i'm critical as hell of usada because it's already been proven they negotiate as to what gets tested..that's like a parole officer testing you for alcohol and saying you are clean although he didn't test you for any actual narcotic. I've told you as well if you need proof of why i'm critical go read winky wrights situation with USADA and how I know for a fact Peter Quillin is a doper after reading winky's interview. USADA gets told what to test for meaning GBP and the fighters know what they aren't being tested for and therefore can use what's not being tested for..that to me is a crock of ****..and considering fighters who test under usada as clean is like calling a recently released criminal a good contributor to society and an honorable citizen. I think everyone in the sport has cheated at one point or another including floyd (brittle hands), pacquaio (blood thinners for more stamina)
  9. ShoulderRoll
    01-09-2013 07:30 PM
    ShoulderRoll
    As long as you are critical of BOTH Conte and Heredia then that's fine. But I've never seen you talk bad about Donaire and his S&C coach. Just about Marquez and his.

    I've also seen you be critical of Floyd's stricter testing. It might not be ideal but never, not once, have you questioned why Pacquiao doesn't do even that much. Or why Pac didn't go along with it when Shane Mosley and Marquez offered to do it.
  10. turnedup
    01-09-2013 03:22 PM
    turnedup
    Then i take it you haven't been reading many of my posts because I was ubber critical of arum and pacquaio for quite some time as i'm critical of gbp and floyd. You on the other hand seem to misinterpret my points. I clearly removed marquez from my criticism of heredia, my point was do you let a pedo work with kids, a drug dealer work at a rehab? I'm critical that guys like that are allowed to work in boxing..nothing in relation to manny, marquez, floyd or any other boxer. I've seen you complain about cheaters on here and yet you give me negative points for critical of conte and hereida when in fact you should be in full agreement with my statements.

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