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  • #11
    Lower:
    Khaosai Galaxy
    Jimmy Wilde

    Really not that impressed with either of their resumes.

    Higher:
    Vicente Saldivar
    Ridiculously under rated imo, incredible featherweight run, one of the best 15 round boxers I've ever seen, very skilled. Top 4 southpaw imo behind Pea, Hagler and Pac.

    Michael Spinks
    Top 3 Light Heavy imo, probably rate him 'just' higher then most, imo his Light Heavy run is over all stronger then Tunney's and he beats Roy Jones h2h.

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    • #12
      Eddie was really exciting ?, .
      Pretty sure in a lot of his early bouts you had to wait until the 4th before he threw a power punch, far from 1 dimensional, that's just silly to say.
      Could box, brawl and was an incredible body puncher, his left hook to the body was just nasty.

      What bouts have you been watching that show him as 1 dimensional ?.
      Last edited by NChristo; 06-10-2012, 02:51 AM.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by NChristo View Post
        Eddie was really exciting ?, .
        Pretty sure in a lot of his early bouts you had to wait until the 4th before he threw a power punch, far from 1 dimensional, that's just silly to say.
        Could box, brawl and was an incredible body puncher, his left hook to the body was just nasty.

        What bouts have you been watching that show him as 1 dimensional ?.
        I think I was mixing Mustafa Muhammad with Marvin Johnson. I still think Mustafa is quite overrated but everything else I said was off.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
          I think I was mixing Mustafa Muhammad with Marvin Johnson. I still think Mustafa is quite overrated but everything else I said was off.
          Ah fair enough, thought you might've done that, done it a few times myself in the past.
          Last edited by NChristo; 06-10-2012, 09:41 AM.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
            Whitaker's fantasy wins are Ramirez Chavez and DLH.

            EMM was one dimensional and it showed

            Marquez is better than Zarate

            Oh and Bradley vs Pacquiao is officially the worse decision in the history of boxing and its not close.
            Whitaker dominated both Ramirez and Chavez

            You already conceded that you confused EMM with Marvin Johnson

            Nobody with any sense thinks that Marquez was better than Zarate.

            And that wasn't even the wosrt decision of that last year (although it was a really bad one). Cloud-Campillo and Williams-Lara were worse. So was Ramirez-Whitaker I for that matter.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
              Whitaker dominated both Ramirez and Chavez

              You already conceded that you confused EMM with Marvin Johnson

              Nobody with any sense thinks that Marquez was better than Zarate.

              And that wasn't even the wosrt decision of that last year (although it was a really bad one). Cloud-Campillo and Williams-Lara were worse. So was Ramirez-Whitaker I for that matter.
              Rios-Abril was worse aswell.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
                Whitaker dominated both Ramirez and Chavez

                You already conceded that you confused EMM with Marvin Johnson

                Nobody with any sense thinks that Marquez was better than Zarate.

                And that wasn't even the wosrt decision of that last year (although it was a really bad one). Cloud-Campillo and Williams-Lara were worse. So was Ramirez-Whitaker I for that matter.
                Whitaker is a crybaby

                Zarate is not better than Marquez not in terms of bantamweight resume or in talent

                None of those fights were anywhere near as bad as this one.

                Williams threw many more punches than Lara so if you are stupid and score missed punches you would give Williams the fight

                Cloud at least had Campillo hurt a few times.

                Pacquiao threw more punches, landed more punches, landed the harder punches and was never even close to being hurt. Their was no criteria on which Bradley wasn't thoroughly dominated.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                  Rios-Abril was worse aswell.
                  I never saw that one, so I couldn't use it. But almost every account I've heard/read confirms what you say.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
                    I never saw that one, so I couldn't use it. But almost every account I've heard/read confirms what you say.
                    I had Abril winning every round and each round by a clear margin.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
                      Whitaker is a crybaby

                      Zarate is not better than Marquez not in terms of bantamweight resume or in talent

                      None of those fights were anywhere near as bad as this one.

                      Williams threw many more punches than Lara so if you are stupid and score missed punches you would give Williams the fight

                      Cloud at least had Campillo hurt a few times.

                      Pacquiao threw more punches, landed more punches, landed the harder punches and was never even close to being hurt. Their was no criteria on which Bradley wasn't thoroughly dominated.
                      Hmm...Zarate was 54-1 (53 KO's) as a bantam. He won 10 title fights and his only loss was a terrible decision to Lupe Pintor. He also won a non title fight with undefeated bantam title holder Alfonso Zamora, which in itself was better than any Marquez win.

                      Marquez was KO'd three times as a bantamweight, and his only notable wins were over Tim Austin and a fast fading Mark Johnson.

                      So Zarate was a better fighter in the best era ever for bantamweights. If anyone else agrees with you, I'd like to hear from them. This isn't even debatable.

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