How much time do you spend on your abs?

[Zaryu]

Ideally, what do you think is the proper amount of time that should be spent on abs? Im not looking to get a six pack, just a stronger core and a lil bit of a smaller waist.

I really hate working abs, I honestly only spend about 5 minutes on abs at the end of my workout (cardio & weights) because I find it non-gratifying in a sense. Whats your routine?

I guess it would depend on the intensity of your workout. I don't really know what you're doing now for those 5 minutes, but I would recommend hanging leg raises with a slow and controlled motion.

The way I do them is:

-Hang up from a bar with a chin up grip

-I bend my elbows a little and tighten my core

- Raise legs straight forward ( knees always bend a little I don't worry about it) until your shins touch the bar.

- Lower legs to starting position slowly

This is a killer workout for me. I actually had to start with 3 sets 5-6 reps. After implementing this exercise to my routing I no longer felt the need to do endless repetitions of crunches to get a burn or be bouncing off from different ab machines to get slightly different muscle stimulation.

I still do a lot of planks and other floor exercises to accompany the workout, but t=not much more.

[Mr.MojoRisin']

I was a heavyweight and used to get hassled about my abs, so I went in on them and worked them hard until i got a 6 pack.
I noticed that shots to the body were hurting me MORE, so I backed off the abs and trained with some fat on my gut, and sure enough the body shots didnt hurt me so much.
So I'm not big on training abs.

I found that training legs turns out to be a big difference maker for me when I got weary, so I was big on training legs. If you want to be a 10 round fighter, leg training is more important than ab training if you ask me.
The difference after training legs shocked me.

Did you ever have someone throw a medicine ball against your abs?