Juggernauts All FACTUAL Joshua vs Wilder Negotiations Time Line That BURIES Wilder .

[Rip Chudd]

Facts and Juggernauts666 is a oxymoron when used in the same sentence

If the word facts were replaced by kool-aid , Pom-Poms , Hearns sem.en , groupie then it’d be believable

Juggernaut don’t use the word facts when it comes to AJ/Wilder because it’s clear even behind a computer screen that AJ / Hearn jizz is dripping from your mouth

This^^^^^^^^^^

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[PotentialToast]

The deal has been long done. Aj v Povetkin next with Shoqtime and then Wilder fight can be on DAZN.

[Illmatic94]

Cowardly Brits protecting a juiced up stiff bodybuilder.

Eddie Sperm better have you on payroll for all this slurping.

"Give me $50 million I'll sign tomorrow.." doe

[champion4ever]

Here is a documented negotiations between the two from World Boxing News that i further expanded on since i HAVE the mental capacity to to do that !

Important note before time line : Wilder states it shouldn't be about money but legacy .#FACTS

He also refuses to promote the fight by not going Joshuas Parker fight to be a PAID commentator ! #FACTS


Here's a full timeline of events leading up to this point:

1 . March 23, 2018 - Joshua fires the first warning to Wilder.

Anthony Joshua WARNS Deontay Wilder on undisputed clash: Get SERIOUS or we'll FREEZE YOU OUT! Beligerent Wilder demands 50 % while being a nuisance on social media . #FACTS

2 .March 28 - Joshua confirms intentions to open talks

Anthony Joshua recalls previous efforts to fight Deontay Wilder, fully intends to open talks again and give the idiot whos playing hard ball another chance . #FACTS .

3. March 30 - Sky Sports Head of Boxing Adam Smith says he doesn't expect a deal until 2019

EXCLUSIVE: Anthony Joshua v Deontay Wilder COULD BE A YEAR AWAY, says Sky Boxing Chief . Just about every smart boxing insider thinks the fight wont happen next due to a huge build up . #FACTS .

4. April 1 - Deontay Wilder's team give the*first indication they will accept a deal in the UK . This is Wilder admitting he will fight in the U.K #FACTS .

EXCLUSIVE: Message to Joshua from Wilder team - 'WE ACCEPT, send CONTRACTS immediately!' HA.. APRIL FOOLS !

5. April 2 - Initial talks and potential terms are revealed

Joshua v Wilder: Fans given REAL HOPE of UNDISPUTED clash as 60-40 TERMS and TALKS are revealed .The Wilder 40% demand is a sticking point ( that is 20/ plus Million ) #FACTS

6. April 3 - Wilder accepts a fight in the UK.

Deontay Wilder releases statement on Anthony Joshua fight the problem is he hasnt agreed to the purse split #FACTS

7. April 4 - Joshua promoter Eddie Hearn reveals contact with Al Haymon

Hearn OPENS TALKS for Joshua v Wilder, reveals why UNDISPUTED clash NEEDS TO HAPPEN NEXT #FACTS

8. April 5 - Joshua's mandatory challenger Alexander Povetkin throws a spanner in the works

Povetkin demands threaten Joshua v Wilder undisputed fight so itis up to Wilder to move fast and stop playing games #FACTS

9 . April 8 - Shelly Finkel outlines his reservations about Joshua accepting the fight

Shelly Finkel: Only way Deontay Wilder fight doesn't happen will be down to Anthony Joshua ? Really hows that hes the A side and decides the major stipulations and this is the FIRST stalling tactic of team Wilder #FACTS

10 . April 9 - Joshua rejects fighting Povetkin

Joshua DISMISSES Povetkin, wants WBA mandatory DELAY as Wilder undisputed OFFER is prepared and team Joshua are going after Wilders title #FACTS

11. April 10 - AJ states he wants home advantage for the initial fight

'UK first, then USA - If I was Deontay Wilder, I'd grab this great deal!' - Anthony Joshua . This is a DIRECT PROVEN statement Joshua makes and hes clearly giving Wilder an opportunity to accept the fight that he CHOOSES in the U.K way before a 50 Million counter offer .#FACTS

12 . April 11 - Joshua's opening offer is revealed to be $12.5m

Joshua offers Wilder far more then he ever had and expects a counter offer which comes OVER 2 weeks later . This was also met with Finkel MAKING plans to meet Hearn for negotiations ( which was FAST Finkel cancelled )#FACTS

13 . April 26 - Wilder counters Joshua with huge $50m USA deal

Deontay Wilder counters Anthony Joshua by granting $50m MEGA-PURSE wish, sets DEADLINE of 24 hours,NO communications the next day after Finkel cancelled 2 negotiations meetings . lol #FACTS

14 . April 26 - Hearn asks for proof the money exists

SHOW ME THE MONEY! - Hearn admits interest in Wilder's $50m purse offer, Joshua wants proof . This is not provided . #FACTS

15 . May 14 - Povetkin representatives hold talks with Matchroom in London as talks stall

Hearn meets with Povetkin promoter Ryabinskiy, means one of two things for Joshua v Wilder it will or wont happen and its a team Wilder reluctance to let the A side dictate terms . #FACTS

16 .May 20 - A USA venue is effectively ruled out for the first contest Joshua v Wilder: Undisputed fight in jeopardy over US / UK venue

Joshua v Wilder: Undisputed fight in jeopardy over US / UK venue This is nonsensical as the Bside is trying to strong arm tactics and are holding up progress #FACTS

17 .May 21 - Team Povetkin await confirmation of September fight with Joshua

EXCLUSIVE: World of Boxing seek Joshua v Povetkin green light for SEPTEMBER FIGHT, unsure of Wilder intentions #FACTS

18 .May 22 - Joshua officially rejects $50m United States offer

Eddie Hearn explains Anthony Joshua decision NOT TO ACCEPT $50m to face Deontay Wilder in USA #FACTS

19 .May 29 - Wilder signals intentions to fight Joshua in the UK ( AGAIN )

Deontay Wilder says Anthony Joshua fight WILL HAPPEN, possibly SEPTEMBER in UK which should have been met without games being played in the first place . #FACTS

20 . June 2 - Joshua attempts to draw out Wilder with Povetkin threat

Anthony Joshua v Alexander Povetkin CLOSE as heavyweight king TURNS BACK ON undisputed Deontay Wilder clash #FACTS

21 .June 4 - Hearn states Povetkin fight is more likely than Wilder

Eddie Hearn says 'at the moment it's Joshua v Povetkin', holds out hope for Deontay Wilder agreement but Wilder insists on 40% #FACTS .

22. June 11 - Wilder accepts counter deal offered by Hearn and Joshua after more time is wasted .

WORLD EXCLUSIVE: Deontay Wilder ACCEPTS Anthony Joshua terms with REMATCH CLAUSE for 2018 UK CLASH - says Shelly Finkel . He accepts terms but he still needs to SIGN the contract which may need time to get sorted out .#FACTS

23 .June 12 - Wilder co-manager and trainer Jay Deas reveals terms of new UK deal

EXCLUSIVE: Wilder trainer Deas confirms Joshua offer is 'WAY LESS' than their $50m, looks forward to UK clash. This is FAKE news bc Joshua will make over 30 Million in the U.K and have home field advantage . #FACTS

24 .June 13 - Finkel accuses Hearn of confusing fans regarding negotiations

EXCLUSIVE: Eddie Hearn CONTRADICTED himself on Joshua v Wilder NEGOTIATIONS - says Shelly Finkel ???????? Just go through the time line for that one

25 .June 14 - Hearn says Joshua v Wilder reigns have been handed over to father Barry . This is to actually ATTEMPT Finkel to get a vontract signed .

EXCLUSIVE: Eddie Hearn responds to Shelly Finkel comments, updates on Joshua v Wilder talks #FACTS

26. June 17 - Wilder alludes to the possibility of Joshua backing out of a deal . ( Which could have already been signed ) Again go through the time line !

Joshua v Wilder: WBC Champ goads rival as undisputed agreement deadline looms and mysteriously as USUAL it is team Wilder in the media again . #FACTS

27. June 19 -*CONFIRMED:*Joshua*v*Wilder*CONTRACT SENT for heavyweight SUPER-FIGHT*...#FACTS

28. June 19 -*EXCLUSIVE: Anthony*Joshua*UNDISPUTED deal REMAINS ALIVE, in THE HANDS of Deontay*Wilder's team*...#FACTS

29 .June 20 -*EXCLUSIVE: Anthony*Joshua*v Deontay*Wilder*- Contract being CONSIDERED, deal hangs IN THE BALANCE*...#FACTS

30 .June 20 -*Joshua*v*Wilder*contract sent THREE DAYS LATE comes with 'SIGN NOW OR WE FIGHT POVETKIN' warning*...This is NOT a fact bc different time zones and it was proven false .#FACTS

31. June 21 -*Clock ticking on*Joshua*v*Wilder*agreement as Povetkin waits*...#FACTS

32 . June 21 -*Showtime boss expects*Joshua*v*Wilder*confirmation*...#FACTS

33. June 21 -*EXCLUSIVE: 'I'm hearing it's*Joshua*v*Wilder*in October' - says Dereck Chisora*...#FACTS

34. June 21 -*EXCLUSIVE: Team*Wilder*LEFT WAITING FOR CLARIFICATION in order to MOVE FORWARD with*Joshua*CONTRACT*...#FACTS

35. June 22 -*Joshua*v*Wilder: TWO CONTRACT CLARIFICATION POINTS from an UNDISPUTED agreement*is answered Finkel is reportedly satisfied as Hearn reported...


There you go Wilder fangirls!



Now lets see if Wilder actually hss a brain and signs the contract !

LOL, At first I was on the fence about your mental stability but now this only proves and confirms it. You really are insane.

[champion4ever]

Get some help.

Yeah exactly! Heaven knows he can definitely use some.

[champion4ever]

I'm so sick and tired of these delays, stalling tactics and broken promises by Matchroom boxing. Where's Tyson Fury when you need him? He'll fight Deontay Wilder in a heartbeat; Especially for $50 Million. Those two will have a gentleman's agreement and get that fight signed as soon as possible.

[mlac]

lmao did anyone actually read that essay of complete gibberish? juggernutter once again proving he is p4p one of the top lunatics on here

[Froch_uppercut]

Here is a documented negotiations between the two from World Boxing News that i further expanded on since i HAVE the mental capacity to to do that !

Important note before time line : Wilder states it shouldn't be about money but legacy .#FACTS

He also refuses to promote the fight by not going Joshuas Parker fight to be a PAID commentator ! #FACTS


Here's a full timeline of events leading up to this point:

1 . March 23, 2018 - Joshua fires the first warning to Wilder.

Anthony Joshua WARNS Deontay Wilder on undisputed clash: Get SERIOUS or we'll FREEZE YOU OUT! Beligerent Wilder demands 50 % while being a nuisance on social media . #FACTS

2 .March 28 - Joshua confirms intentions to open talks

Anthony Joshua recalls previous efforts to fight Deontay Wilder, fully intends to open talks again and give the idiot whos playing hard ball another chance . #FACTS .

3. March 30 - Sky Sports Head of Boxing Adam Smith says he doesn't expect a deal until 2019

EXCLUSIVE: Anthony Joshua v Deontay Wilder COULD BE A YEAR AWAY, says Sky Boxing Chief . Just about every smart boxing insider thinks the fight wont happen next due to a huge build up . #FACTS .

4. April 1 - Deontay Wilder's team give the*first indication they will accept a deal in the UK . This is Wilder admitting he will fight in the U.K #FACTS .

EXCLUSIVE: Message to Joshua from Wilder team - 'WE ACCEPT, send CONTRACTS immediately!' HA.. APRIL FOOLS !

5. April 2 - Initial talks and potential terms are revealed

Joshua v Wilder: Fans given REAL HOPE of UNDISPUTED clash as 60-40 TERMS and TALKS are revealed .The Wilder 40% demand is a sticking point ( that is 20/ plus Million ) #FACTS

6. April 3 - Wilder accepts a fight in the UK.

Deontay Wilder releases statement on Anthony Joshua fight the problem is he hasnt agreed to the purse split #FACTS

7. April 4 - Joshua promoter Eddie Hearn reveals contact with Al Haymon

Hearn OPENS TALKS for Joshua v Wilder, reveals why UNDISPUTED clash NEEDS TO HAPPEN NEXT #FACTS

8. April 5 - Joshua's mandatory challenger Alexander Povetkin throws a spanner in the works

Povetkin demands threaten Joshua v Wilder undisputed fight so itis up to Wilder to move fast and stop playing games #FACTS

9 . April 8 - Shelly Finkel outlines his reservations about Joshua accepting the fight

Shelly Finkel: Only way Deontay Wilder fight doesn't happen will be down to Anthony Joshua ? Really hows that hes the A side and decides the major stipulations and this is the FIRST stalling tactic of team Wilder #FACTS

10 . April 9 - Joshua rejects fighting Povetkin

Joshua DISMISSES Povetkin, wants WBA mandatory DELAY as Wilder undisputed OFFER is prepared and team Joshua are going after Wilders title #FACTS

11. April 10 - AJ states he wants home advantage for the initial fight

'UK first, then USA - If I was Deontay Wilder, I'd grab this great deal!' - Anthony Joshua . This is a DIRECT PROVEN statement Joshua makes and hes clearly giving Wilder an opportunity to accept the fight that he CHOOSES in the U.K way before a 50 Million counter offer .#FACTS

12 . April 11 - Joshua's opening offer is revealed to be $12.5m

Joshua offers Wilder far more then he ever had and expects a counter offer which comes OVER 2 weeks later . This was also met with Finkel MAKING plans to meet Hearn for negotiations ( which was FAST Finkel cancelled )#FACTS

13 . April 26 - Wilder counters Joshua with huge $50m USA deal

Deontay Wilder counters Anthony Joshua by granting $50m MEGA-PURSE wish, sets DEADLINE of 24 hours,NO communications the next day after Finkel cancelled 2 negotiations meetings . lol #FACTS

14 . April 26 - Hearn asks for proof the money exists

SHOW ME THE MONEY! - Hearn admits interest in Wilder's $50m purse offer, Joshua wants proof . This is not provided . #FACTS

15 . May 14 - Povetkin representatives hold talks with Matchroom in London as talks stall

Hearn meets with Povetkin promoter Ryabinskiy, means one of two things for Joshua v Wilder it will or wont happen and its a team Wilder reluctance to let the A side dictate terms . #FACTS

16 .May 20 - A USA venue is effectively ruled out for the first contest Joshua v Wilder: Undisputed fight in jeopardy over US / UK venue

Joshua v Wilder: Undisputed fight in jeopardy over US / UK venue This is nonsensical as the Bside is trying to strong arm tactics and are holding up progress #FACTS

17 .May 21 - Team Povetkin await confirmation of September fight with Joshua

EXCLUSIVE: World of Boxing seek Joshua v Povetkin green light for SEPTEMBER FIGHT, unsure of Wilder intentions #FACTS

18 .May 22 - Joshua officially rejects $50m United States offer

Eddie Hearn explains Anthony Joshua decision NOT TO ACCEPT $50m to face Deontay Wilder in USA #FACTS

19 .May 29 - Wilder signals intentions to fight Joshua in the UK ( AGAIN )

Deontay Wilder says Anthony Joshua fight WILL HAPPEN, possibly SEPTEMBER in UK which should have been met without games being played in the first place . #FACTS

20 . June 2 - Joshua attempts to draw out Wilder with Povetkin threat

Anthony Joshua v Alexander Povetkin CLOSE as heavyweight king TURNS BACK ON undisputed Deontay Wilder clash #FACTS

21 .June 4 - Hearn states Povetkin fight is more likely than Wilder

Eddie Hearn says 'at the moment it's Joshua v Povetkin', holds out hope for Deontay Wilder agreement but Wilder insists on 40% #FACTS .

22. June 11 - Wilder accepts counter deal offered by Hearn and Joshua after more time is wasted .

WORLD EXCLUSIVE: Deontay Wilder ACCEPTS Anthony Joshua terms with REMATCH CLAUSE for 2018 UK CLASH - says Shelly Finkel . He accepts terms but he still needs to SIGN the contract which may need time to get sorted out .#FACTS

23 .June 12 - Wilder co-manager and trainer Jay Deas reveals terms of new UK deal

EXCLUSIVE: Wilder trainer Deas confirms Joshua offer is 'WAY LESS' than their $50m, looks forward to UK clash. This is FAKE news bc Joshua will make over 30 Million in the U.K and have home field advantage . #FACTS

24 .June 13 - Finkel accuses Hearn of confusing fans regarding negotiations

EXCLUSIVE: Eddie Hearn CONTRADICTED himself on Joshua v Wilder NEGOTIATIONS - says Shelly Finkel ???????? Just go through the time line for that one

25 .June 14 - Hearn says Joshua v Wilder reigns have been handed over to father Barry . This is to actually ATTEMPT Finkel to get a vontract signed .

EXCLUSIVE: Eddie Hearn responds to Shelly Finkel comments, updates on Joshua v Wilder talks #FACTS

26. June 17 - Wilder alludes to the possibility of Joshua backing out of a deal . ( Which could have already been signed ) Again go through the time line !

Joshua v Wilder: WBC Champ goads rival as undisputed agreement deadline looms and mysteriously as USUAL it is team Wilder in the media again . #FACTS

27. June 19 -*CONFIRMED:*Joshua*v*Wilder*CONTRACT SENT for heavyweight SUPER-FIGHT*...#FACTS

28. June 19 -*EXCLUSIVE: Anthony*Joshua*UNDISPUTED deal REMAINS ALIVE, in THE HANDS of Deontay*Wilder's team*...#FACTS

29 .June 20 -*EXCLUSIVE: Anthony*Joshua*v Deontay*Wilder*- Contract being CONSIDERED, deal hangs IN THE BALANCE*...#FACTS

30 .June 20 -*Joshua*v*Wilder*contract sent THREE DAYS LATE comes with 'SIGN NOW OR WE FIGHT POVETKIN' warning*...This is NOT a fact bc different time zones and it was proven false .#FACTS

31. June 21 -*Clock ticking on*Joshua*v*Wilder*agreement as Povetkin waits*...#FACTS

32 . June 21 -*Showtime boss expects*Joshua*v*Wilder*confirmation*...#FACTS

33. June 21 -*EXCLUSIVE: 'I'm hearing it's*Joshua*v*Wilder*in October' - says Dereck Chisora*...#FACTS

34. June 21 -*EXCLUSIVE: Team*Wilder*LEFT WAITING FOR CLARIFICATION in order to MOVE FORWARD with*Joshua*CONTRACT*...#FACTS

35. June 22 -*Joshua*v*Wilder: TWO CONTRACT CLARIFICATION POINTS from an UNDISPUTED agreement*is answered Finkel is reportedly satisfied as Hearn reported...


There you go Wilder fangirls!



Now lets see if Wilder actually hss a brain and signs the contract !

Excellent work, although I fear that Wilder's believers are more interested in screaming and wailing and shouts of 'BOMB SQUAD' than they are in facts.

I think it will happen next. Wilder's delays and stalling were because he figured he had more leverage than he did in reality. He's now lost the negotiations pretty much, they'll get the wrinkles out of this next week and announce Cardiff in October, with a US rematch.

[Rock&Roll]

This must be awfully important to you for you to post a small book about it. AJ gets no credit for burying Wilder in negotiations. He only gets credit for beating him if he does so in a boxing ring and he has not done that.

Excellent point/post.
The OP could have put his time and effort into a detailed technique breakdown and prediction, given we are BOXING fans and not negotiation fans.

A comment on negotiations is normal, an unobjective essay is not.

[HarvardBlue]

I was kinda on the fence about the facts in this essay. But when I saw #FACTS, I'm convinced those points were irrefutable.

You would make an excellent lawyer.