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Concept Of NELO Beating GGG Boosts Mayweather's Legacy?! WTF
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Originally posted by Vlad_ View PostThe whole idea is that this version of Canelo is much better, stronger, more experienced than the one that Mayweather fought. GGG would obliterate the Canelo that lost to Mayweather.
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Canelo was in his prime when he fought Floyd. Stop with this too green bull****, because that what is, bull****. Oscar's protege got schooled and embarrassed by a past prime welterweight. Oscar needed an excuse to rationalize how his star fighter could be so thoroughly beaten by a much smaller and older fighter. Canelo is still the same fighter he was a few years. You saw him barely squeak past Lara and Trout. You saw him badly whiffing on punches when he fought Khan of all people. Fact is if what we've seen the past few years is "prime Canelo" then he's still "too green" to ever compete with Floyd.
I don't know why it's so hard for people too accept this dude is a good fighter, but not a great fighter. This "too green" excuse carries the implications that Canelo has become a much better fighter, which is laughable. He will never beat any version of Floyd. He's not built like that. He wouldn't even be the favorite to beat current 40 yr old Floyd despite the two year layoff and y'all know it.
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Originally posted by MoneyMayFan View PostLmao anything to discredit floyd on this site....amazing
Do we need to bump the scores of threads about how Floyd is ducking Canelo and he'd never fight a young undefeated bull like him? Those threads also contain hundreds of posts about how Floyd is chicken, but if he did nut up and fight Canelo he'll be given full credit finally.
Canelo was young, but he was not green. Dude was 42-0-1 and had beaten Mosely, Cintron, and Trout already, 3 wins that are arguably better than any 3 wins GGG has on his resume currently. If Floyd would have waited a few more years to fight Canelo you all would have been screaming that he was chicken, then after he schooled him you all would be saying how Canelo was so much tougher when he was younger.
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Anyone notice the TS criticised a 154lb Canello @ 152 catchweight but then suggest it would be ok to fight 160lb Canello @ 155 catchweight?
No thanks. Not buying it.
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Originally posted by Dosumpthin View PostAnyone notice the TS criticised a 154lb Canello @ 152 catchweight but then suggest it would be ok to fight 160lb Canello @ 155 catchweight?
No thanks. Not buying it.
But Floyd beat Oscar at 154 as well as Cotto. Then Floyd fights Alvarez at 152? Why didn't Floyd bluff and say "I don't need 152, I'll still beat his ass at 154.."
Unfortunately because Bernard was great imo and kept going and eventually fighting softer in his decline like Floyd, with power, I'm just gonna say Alvarez now beats Floyd...
My point is Nelo vs GGG has nothing to do with Floyd and it doesn't boost Floyd's legacy. Floyd's legacy alone supersedes Nelo and GGG combined.
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Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop View PostYou guys know I'm one of the most objective here. And I am big supporter for May vs Mac.. I also said anything 155+
But Floyd beat Oscar at 154 as well as Cotto. Then Floyd fights Alvarez at 152? Why didn't Floyd bluff and say "I don't need 152, I'll still beat his ass at 154.."
Unfortunately because Bernard was great imo and kept going and eventually fighting softer in his decline like Floyd, with power, I'm just gonna say Alvarez now beats Floyd...
My point is Nelo vs GGG has nothing to do with Floyd and it doesn't boost Floyd's legacy. Floyd's legacy alone supersedes Nelo and GGG combined.
But I still disagree. We are ultimately talking about a triangle theroy anyway. Just opinions. No harm no foul.
IMHO:
The "now" Alvarez doesn't beat the "then" Floyd @ 154 either. Same with GGG. He doesn't beat "then" Floyd @ 154 and no doubt in my mind GGG performs worst than Canello.
Maybe 40 year old Floyd loses.
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Originally posted by cammoking123 View PostCanelo was in his prime when he fought Floyd. Stop with this too green bull****, because that what is, bull****. Oscar's protege got schooled and embarrassed by a past prime welterweight. Oscar needed an excuse to rationalize how his star fighter could be so thoroughly beaten by a much smaller and older fighter. Canelo is still the same fighter he was a few years. You saw him barely squeak past Lara and Trout. You saw him badly whiffing on punches when he fought Khan of all people. Fact is if what we've seen the past few years is "prime Canelo" then he's still "too green" to ever compete with Floyd.
I don't know why it's so hard for people too accept this dude is a good fighter, but not a great fighter. This "too green" excuse carries the implications that Canelo has become a much better fighter, which is laughable. He will never beat any version of Floyd. He's not built like that. He wouldn't even be the favorite to beat current 40 yr old Floyd despite the two year layoff and y'all know it.
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