Yup, the rematch was there, Pac was not the one that rejected that time. Besides, that fight should've been an official win for Pac after one of the judges admitted to making a mistake with his scorecard, something which ended up benefiting Marquez more than anyone could've ever imagined.
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Originally posted by mcdonalds View PostThere was a 4 year gap between the 1st and 2nd fight. Then a 3 year gap between the 2nd and 3rd fight.
Plenty of people felt pacquiao lost these fights so why didn't Pacquiao immediately give him a rematch to prove them wrong???
See this is the difference between Pacquiao and fighters like Canelo and TBE. Many people felt floyd lost to castillo and what did he do? He gave him a rematch within that SAME YEAR. People felt like GGG won so what did canelo do? Offered him an immediate rematch
Did Bob Arum and pacquiao wait for JMM to get old??? It appears so but it obviously backfired
Thank god i support true warriors like Ca$hnelo and Mr. TBE
Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View PostYes they waited until they thought JMM lost a step each time. Sadly for them JMM still had plenty enough for Pacquiao.Originally posted by Diego Rodriguez View PostThat wasn't Pac it was Marquez. I was a huge Marquez fan. Marquez almost pissed his career away. A lot of people will not remember but he ended up fighting in Indonesia and got an L. From people that I respect they said it was a robbery (still have to watch it myself, maybe this weekend). He went in the guys back yard and made absolute crap money.
Had he rematched Pac right away I think he would have beat him at that time. He had figured out Pac by the end of the fight and Pac had not improved like he did in later years. Just my opinion.Originally posted by chrisJS View PostThe John fight was a robbery indeed. Marquez dropped the ball passing on the re-match for 2005 and got lucky with the TR-GBP beef by getting a shot at Barrera which allowed him back into the fold and he took that chance dominating Barrera.
Pacquaio stalled Marquez out after 2008 though. Marquez deserved the win and had to wait too long. In 2011 they figured Marquez was too old and coming up to Welterweight would be too much.
The first time around, he was so terrified of Manny's brute force...he would rather travel to some Indonesian jungle and got schooled by local hero named C.J. Another fight he lost but guess what?! He said he was robbed. Yeah right !!!
I'm a fair person though. I give credit where credit is due. At least, Cry baby fought Manny 4 times unlike TBDE (The Best Ducker ever) who made so many excuses to duck Prime Manny.
TBDE should thank cry baby for doing his "dirty work".
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Originally posted by Diego Rodriguez View PostThat wasn't Pac it was Marquez. I was a huge Marquez fan. Marquez almost pissed his career away. A lot of people will not remember but he ended up fighting in Indonesia and got an L. From people that I respect they said it was a robbery (still have to watch it myself, maybe this weekend). He went in the guys back yard and made absolute crap money.
Had he rematched Pac right away I think he would have beat him at that time. He had figured out Pac by the end of the fight and Pac had not improved like he did in later years. Just my opinion.
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Originally posted by TrueBox View PostJuanita didn't have the cojones to immediately rematch Manny in late '04 or in early '05. Just like he was never brave enough to tango for the fifth time with a guy whom he claims never beat him.
The first time around, he was so terrified of Manny's brute force...he would rather travel to some Indonesian jungle and got schooled by local hero named C.J. Another fight he lost but guess what?! He said he was robbed. Yeah right !!!
I'm a fair person though. I give credit where credit is due. At least, Cry baby fought Manny 4 times unlike TBDE (The Best Ducker ever) who made so many excuses to duck Prime Manny.
TBDE should thank cry baby for doing his "dirty work".
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Originally posted by TrueBox View PostJuanita didn't have the cojones to immediately rematch Manny in late '04 or in early '05. Just like he was never brave enough to tango for the fifth time with a guy whom he claims never beat him.
The first time around, he was so terrified of Manny's brute force...he would rather travel to some Indonesian jungle and got schooled by local hero named C.J. Another fight he lost but guess what?! He said he was robbed. Yeah right !!!
I'm a fair person though. I give credit where credit is due. At least, Cry baby fought Manny 4 times unlike TBDE (The Best Ducker ever) who made so many excuses to duck Prime Manny.
TBDE should thank cry baby for doing his "dirty work".
Hmmmm manny has a history of ducking and waiting out opponents so the facts aren't on your side my friend
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Pacquiao was not a superstar back then. He's neither A-side nor B-side. He was just like anyone struggling to make it on top. He was also promoted by a guy named Mohammed. He was following whatever his management team comes up with.
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Originally posted by boliodogs View PostYes, shame on Pacquiao for being from a far away land and an oriental. Another great all American thread from the flag boy with the tanks. Why didn't Marquez give Pacquiao a 5th fight for much more money than he ever dreamed of making? Why didn't Leonard give Hearns an immediate rematch instead of waiting until Hearns looked shot? Why did Leonard refuse to rematch Hagler after his close debatable split d win?
Stop talking about these ancient american legends WTF
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