Do you belive that either Pacquiao and Marquez were both peds why or why not?

[Blue54]

If so should this take away from eithers legacy

[boxinggod101]

What a couple of haters on a forum think won't change their legacies.

[Scary_canary]

I think it’s probable that they were both on it at some time but neither tested positive so you can’t hold anything against either of them in regards to ped use

[mike1010011]

Marquez works with memo (a guys who's literally bragged about being able to design and make undetectable peds)and out of nowhere he's more muscular and defined at almost 40,then when he was in his 20's or early 30's. This is the age where a mans testosterone levels fall lower and lower,and it becomes harder to maintain muscles,let alone gain more. Additionally,for the 4th Pacquiao fight,Marquez got a verry bad case of chest acne (which he didn't have before). So either he found the foundation of youth which increases test,muscle,and gave him acne like a teenager,or the guys was on gear.

[DumpkinsPlus5]

Marquez definitely cheated in the 4th Pacquiao fight

[JWHardin]

Marquez definitely cheated in the 4th Pacquiao fight

Marquez said he agreed to take any tests before the 4th fight, as long as Pacquiao did the same. Team Pacquiao then dropped it. Why didn't team Pacquiao insist on testing then?

Come on rocket scientists, figure it out.

[LADIV]

Marquez works with memo (a guys who's literally bragged about being able to design and make undetectable peds)and out of nowhere he's more muscular and defined at almost 40,then when he was in his 20's or early 30's. This is the age where a mans testosterone levels fall lower and lower,and it becomes harder to maintain muscles,let alone gain more. Additionally,for the 4th Pacquiao fight,Marquez got a verry bad case of chest acne (which he didn't have before). So either he found the foundation of youth which increases test,muscle,and gave him acne like a teenager,or the guys was on gear.

kinda like how pacquiao showed up to the Lucas fight....

[Chrismart]

Someone posted this up last night in another thread. Quite a long watch but decent I thought. I thought it was a Pac vid but it's more about Mayweather to be honest, but still touches on the guys Pac's thoughts and fits somewhat into the threads narrative.

I imagine people will agree/disagree and it will please/piss people off in equal measures.



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[MulaKO]

Isn’t everybody on peds
Isn’t that obliged in today’s sports
Ffs their all on it
It is what it is
Get caught and you do the time or maybe not
Honestly depends on how much is pushing behind you ( $$$$$$ )
All sports unfortunately corrupt , no matter what you believe
Is it normal to have great odds to actually bet on a team to come back in the last six minutes of a game
Yeah it is , New England Patriots in the super bowl
Vegas this year in the NHL
McGreggor lasting 10 rounds untill Money got his over / under
Russia winning the 2018 World Cup haaaaaaaaa
All closet cases untill the legalization of all
So anybody looking for some prime ciento per ciento shrimp and bag
Don’t worry just a matter of time before its all good

[Willy Wanker]

Pretty sure they both were. They were just the elite fighters that didn't get caught.

I think athletes that pop positive are either really dumb and careless, or they do more PEDs than than the average athlete, so it's harder for them mask it.