Juan Manuel Marquez Wins 2012 Fighter the Year

[IronDanHamza]

for sure , but it's not a tie.. the bwaa which is the real one has nonito the foty ..

having jmm as foty of 2012 or floyd in 1998 is as credible as broner being a top 10 p4p fighter...

I wouldn't say so, because The Ring is a lot different now to how it was then and considered much less credible now in comparison to then. So, I wouldn't say it's the same at all.

[-PBP-]

If you want to get real technical the Ring Magazine Pound for Pound rankings are Chuck Giampa's ratings. The editorial board has nothing to do with that.

Again, just one man's opinion.

[puga]

I wouldn't say so, because The Ring is a lot different now to how it was then and considered much less credible now in comparison to then. So, I wouldn't say it's the same at all.

ok then ... it's all about the crdibilty and ring does'nt have that ,not anymore atleast....

[puga]

If you want to get real technical the Ring Magazine Pound for Pound rankings are Chuck Giampa's ratings. The editorial board has nothing to do with that.

Again, just one man's opinion.

exactly why the ring mag cannot be taken seriously...

[IronDanHamza]

If you want to get real technical the Ring Magazine Pound for Pound rankings are Chuck Giampa's ratings. The editorial board has nothing to do with that.

Again, just one man's opinion.

And that's been the case for like what? Months?

A lot different to The Ring in the 90's.

The Ring has definitely gone down hill, no question. But I think people are becoming overly critical.

If you look at their Top 10 P4P, the majority of them aren't with GBP.

[-PBP-]

exactly why the ring mag cannot be taken seriously...

I don't know about that.

My point is you can't compare the pound for pound rankings to their year end awards or even their divisional rankings.

Their pound for pound rankings are one man's opinion. Their year end awards are voted by the editorial board. Two totally different processes.

[Bretty Poy32]

thats a nice cover they picked

[IronDanHamza]

ok then ... it's all about the crdibilty and ring does'nt have that ,not anymore atleast....

I suppose you're right in regards to at this moment. The Ring's credibility has definitely declined.

That said, I'm not sure how they vote for their FOTY any more so I can't comment on that, in that regard.

Definitely run differently to how it was in the 90's, that's for sure.

[puga]

I don't know about that.

My point is you can't compare the pound for pound rankings to their year end awards or even their divisional rankings.

Their pound for pound rankings are one man's opinion. Their year end awards are voted by the editorial board. Two totally different processes.

ofcourse you can .. not doing so would only mean picking the one that you like and elimating the ones you dont..

bottomline is ring mag has a **** credibilty..

[puga]

I suppose you're right in regards to at this moment. The Ring's credibility has definitely declined.

That said, I'm not sure how they vote for their FOTY any more so I can't comment on that, in that regard.

Definitely run differently to how it was in the 90's, that's for sure.

arent we talking about this moment tho ?