Zuffa Boxing to buy PBC?

[killakali]

LOL, right you are in an island with this argument but you are winning it so badly!!!!

No, you simply can't comprehend and that is the issue here. So it is proven that PBC fighters can fight on other networks correct? Okay cool, glad we got that out of the way. So if the WME in this hypothetical gets rights to all of Haymon's contracts, then they can surely go fight elsewhere, right? What is going to prevent Spence from saying fighting on ESPN or DAZN? What can the WME do to prevent that?

The reason these fighters fight on SHO/FOX is because of Haymon, not the actual PBC brand. Read that slowly. You lose Haymon, there is NOTHING preventing those fighters from going elsewhere. That is the entire point here. So the WME ends up getting these network deals, with potentially losing out on all the big names.

So now you bring up Haymon being 65 and wanting to just retire? That is completely different from what Glaser said.

And um yes, why wouldn't Glaser's validity be questioned here when none of this makes any sense?

you’re so misguided it makes me laugh.

What stopped wilder from going to DAZN or espn? Charlo from going to DAZN etc?

These are managerial clients. U say they stayed because of Haymon which is hardly the truth and laughable. You left out the key factor. Pbcs managerial company has 2 multi 100 million dollar tv contracts. Without that wilder and Charlo would he DAZN fighters. That’s how wilder is msking almost 18 mil thus Saturday.

As for the pbc, WME would get those tv contracts and Be in position to do the same thing. U think it’s Haymon they are loyal to but it’s the money first and foremost. DAZN forced Haymon to dig deeper in his pickets or they were gone.

It’s no different if Haymon of WME own pbc. Same playing field.

Also the WME would he collecting managerial purses off those deals if they ese where.

[killakali]

You just proved it yourself. If you go the PBC website under "contact" the business address is for "Haymon Boxing" not "PBC". And if you google "Haymon Boxing LLC" one of the first things that comes up is the linkedin page which tells you that Haymon boxing is a "boxing management company". Also on the fox website there is a webpage called "what is PBC on fox?" where it tells you that the PBC is a "boxing series created for television by Haymon Sports LLC." There is nothing saying that PBC is a managerial company, it is very obviously just a television series.

https://www.linkedin.com/company/ko-sports

https://help.fox.com/s/article/What-is-PBC-on-FOX

haymon boxing is a managerial company. If u want to mail a letter to pbc u mail it to Haymon boxing. Which proves they one and the same. Nice try though.

[pillowfists98]

haymon boxing is a managerial company. If u want to mail a letter to pbc u mail it to Haymon boxing. Which proves they one and the same. Nice try though.

They are not the "same thing". They are clearly different en******. PBC has never been a managerial company.

[KTFOKING]

you’re so misguided it makes me laugh.

What stopped wilder from going to DAZN or espn? Charlo from going to DAZN etc?

These are managerial clients. U say they stayed because of Haymon which is hardly the truth and laughable. You left out the key factor. Pbcs managerial company has 2 multi 100 million dollar tv contracts. Without that wilder and Charlo would he DAZN fighters. That’s how wilder is msking almost 18 mil thus Saturday.

As for the pbc, WME would get those tv contracts and Be in position to do the same thing. U think it’s Haymon they are loyal to but it’s the money first and foremost. DAZN forced Haymon to dig deeper in his pickets or they were gone.

It’s no different if Haymon of WME own pbc. Same playing field.

Also the WME would he collecting managerial purses off those deals if they ese where.

Okay, so once again, NOTHING prevents the fighters from leaving elsewhere.

You are crazy if you don't think Haymon wasn't a factor they didn't leave. Who is convincing them to stay? And don't just say money since DAZN can match damn near any offer. Haymon didn't want to lose his biggest name as he wanted him to fight on one of the networks he has a deal with. If Haymon is out of the picture, the fighters aren't going to have the same loyalty to WME. I mean unless WME wants to just pay crazy money, but let's see how that works out.

And you have yet to show me an example of an advisor/management contract being sold without a fighter having any say. Plenty of examples of fighters deals being bought out and then them willingly signing elsewhere. But show me an advisor or management deal being sold where the fighter didn't want it to happen.

We have seen Haymon advisor contracts leaked out, and they clearly state "Haymon Sports LLC" NOT PBC. Haymon was signing fighters like crazy in 2014 getting ready for the PBC launch. PBC is the brand the fighters fight under, Haymon is who they sign to. But we can sit back and see what happens. Can't wait to see the WME purchase the PBC and kick Haymon completely out and keep the entire roster!!!!

[killakali]

They are not the "same thing". They are clearly different en******. PBC has never been a managerial company.

Lmao why does PBC list the managerial company as its contact on the pbc website? Hmmm lolol

[pillowfists98]

Lmao why does PBC list the managerial company as its contact on the pbc website? Hmmm lolol

Because "Haymon Boxing" is the managerial company that created the television series "Premier Boxing Champions". Its very simple. I really can't figure why you don't understand this.

[killakali]

Okay, so once again, NOTHING prevents the fighters from leaving elsewhere.

You are crazy if you don't think Haymon wasn't a factor they didn't leave. Who is convincing them to stay? And don't just say money since DAZN can match damn near any offer. Haymon didn't want to lose his biggest name as he wanted him to fight on one of the networks he has a deal with. If Haymon is out of the picture, the fighters aren't going to have the same loyalty to WME. I mean unless WME wants to just pay crazy money, but let's see how that works out.

And you have yet to show me an example of an advisor/management contract being sold without a fighter having any say. Plenty of examples of fighters deals being bought out and then them willingly signing elsewhere. But show me an advisor or management deal being sold where the fighter didn't want it to happen.

We have seen Haymon advisor contracts leaked out, and they clearly state "Haymon Sports LLC" NOT PBC. Haymon was signing fighters like crazy in 2014 getting ready for the PBC launch. PBC is the brand the fighters fight under, Haymon is who they sign to. But we can sit back and see what happens. Can't wait to see the WME purchase the PBC and kick Haymon completely out and keep the entire roster!!!!

again u are misguided, have a bad memory, or lack comprehension skills.

What I said was if it’s a voluntary sell Haymon would be involved.

If it’s forced he won’t.

We need to see the terms of the deal.

Answer this question. If u are Waddle and Reed, and investor who’s seen his investment portfolio severely reduced and you are forcing Haymon to sell, follow along with me.

Would you allow the man who swindled 100s of millions of dollars from your retirement account to make himself and 100-200 athletes richer stay on board as you try to salvage your retirement portfolio? Do you let the man who’s being sued for defrauding you stay on at pbc or do you have a clause where he is out completely?

[killakali]

Because "Haymon Boxing" is the managerial company that created the television series "Premier Boxing Champions". Its very simple. I really can't figure why you don't understand this.

so it’s the same.

MTK global is a managerial company that has several tv deals. Is there contact top rank boxing on espn? Lololol

[KTFOKING]

again u are misguided, have a bad memory, or lack comprehension skills.

What I said was if it’s a voluntary sell Haymon would be involved.

If it’s forced he won’t.

We need to see the terms of the deal.

Answer this question. If u are Waddle and Reed, and investor who’s seen his investment portfolio severely reduced and you are forcing Haymon to sell, follow along with me.

Would you allow the man who swindled 100s of millions of dollars from your retirement account to make himself and 100-200 athletes richer stay on board as you try to salvage your retirement portfolio? Do you let the man who’s being sued for defrauding you stay on at pbc or do you have a clause where he is out completely?

Holy ish, why are you making this so difficult? Haymon HAS to stay on board to assure you get to keep his fighters exactly where they are. The contracts the fighters are signing are to Haymon Sports LLC, NOT the PBC. W&R can't just make him sell the PBC and his fighters and think everything will be par for the course. He is the biggest reason these guys are fighting on the PBC.

As for your other question of why the PBC lists its managerial company as its contact? Is that trick question? THE MANAGERIAL COMPANY IS WHAT RUNS THE PBC OPERATIONS. Who else is going to be the contact? Who created the damn PBC?

According to Haymon’s deposition testimony, Haymon Sports is wholly-owned by Haymon Holdings and is the entity which runs the operations of Premier Boxing Champions (PBC) as well as contracts with boxers for Haymon’s management services.

No where has it ever been stated the PBC is the managerial company and not Haymon Sports. I have no idea where you got that from. The PBC brand is just a TV series as pillowfists98 stated.

For the last time, the sale itself makes sense and gives W&R immediate return on their investment. So sure, in that regard makes perfect sense and then WME can do whatever they want with the brand. But they aren't buying this without essentially buying Haymon as well. It will be a package deal for them. Haymon still stays on and does what he does, and then they run the PBC brand and make whatever tweaks they want to the product.

[KTFOKING]

so it’s the same.

MTK global is a managerial company that has several tv deals. Is there contact top rank boxing on espn? Lololol

It isn't the same. Haymon Sports is the managerial company NOT PBC and Haymon Sports is what runs the PBC operations.