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Originally posted by pillowfists98 View PostPBC is not a managerial company it is a television series. "Haymon Sports" is the managerial company. It existed before PBC was started and if PBC went of the airwaves today it would continue to exist. There are no fighters signed with "PBC" they are signed to "Haymon Sports" or "Haymon Boxing".
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Originally posted by KTFOKING View PostLOL, what are those contracts worth if you lose the fighters? That's the whole point here. The fighters are signed to Haymon, NOT the PBC. So you get the TV contracts without the fighters. Great! Now what? How do you build your roster then?
If you want to send a letter to PBC who do you address it to? Scroll down.
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To contact Premier Boxing Champions, choose from the following options:
General inquiries:
Email: info@premierboxingchampions.com
Tel: +1 702 522 2701
Media inquiries:
Email: media@premierboxingchampions.com
Website editorial inquiries:
Email: webeditor@premierboxingchampions.com
Website:
Email: webmaster@premierboxingchampions.com
Business address:
Haymon Boxing, 3930 Howard Hughes Pkwy, Suite 350, Las Vegas, NV 89169.
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Originally posted by killakali View Postu keep making that up. Pbc is a managerial company. Show me where they aren’t signed to pbc. I will wait.
Where would Haymon’s fighter’s fight ? He wouldn’t have deals with fox or showtime anymore if you were right and fox is exclusive to pbc and showtime has a 60 million commitment to pbc a year.
That Wbf IBO iba guy was very clear that contract is iron clad for pbc.
How about YOU show me where contracts are signed to the PBC and not Haymon himself.
Then account for the fighters who don't have written contracts with Haymon like GRJ and Mikey.
So if Jessie Vargas has a deal with the PBC, how is he able to fight on DAZN? That makes no sense. How would any of these fighters be allowed to fight elsewhere if the deal is with the PBC and not Haymon?
And who is to say he can't get a deal elsewhere if he brings his fighters with him? Who is to say DAZN won't bring him along if he brings them Wilder/Spence/etc? Stop overthinking this. Glaser is a known fraud with his posts. The sale of the PBC very well may be true and this was rumored in the past. WME has been trying to get in boxing for a while and tried to purchase TR or at least their library not too long ago. So all this is believable. What is not, is taking Haymon completely out of the picture and expecting to take his fighters. The PBC brand is nothing to the fighters. They are fighting on FOX/SHO because that is who Haymon has network deals with.
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Originally posted by killakali View Postheres from the pbc website itself lol
If you want to send a letter to PBC who do you address it to? Scroll down.
CONTACT
To contact Premier Boxing Champions, choose from the following options:
General inquiries:
Email: info@premierboxingchampions.com
Tel: +1 702 522 2701
Media inquiries:
Email: media@premierboxingchampions.com
Website editorial inquiries:
Email: webeditor@premierboxingchampions.com
Website:
Email: webmaster@premierboxingchampions.com
Business address:
Haymon Boxing, 3930 Howard Hughes Pkwy, Suite 350, Las Vegas, NV 89169.
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Originally posted by killakali View Postyou are missing the point. The pbc isn’t a promoter. They are a managerial company. Most of Haymon’s fighters are signed to a contract. There are very few on a fight by fight basis and even those sign a contract for each individual fight.
If Haymon is forced to sell its very different than just talking to a company about buying them.
One is voluntary. One isn’t. If it’s voluntary like the UFC deal then Haymon would probably ya e to stay on for a couple years like Dana White then have a non compete for a few years after he steps down.
But if it’s a forced sell which is what glazer is stating then he would be selling his contracts and have a non compete and be out of boxing for however long the non compete stipulates ala Richard Schaefer.
That’s the part you are missing.
Okay, let's operate under the fact that they signed to the PBC instead of Haymon. So let's say their contracts expire after a fight or two, so then what happens? What prevents them from going to where Haymon goes to? IF he had to sign a covenant not to compete clause, what prevents him from operating under say his right hand man Brad Owens? So say Brad Owens becomes an advisor and the fighters sign with him until Haymon can't advise, what happens to the WME then? The WME wouldn't want Haymon gone, he is the sole reason the PBC stable is the deepest in the game. Why get rid of the main asset?
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Originally posted by KTFOKING View PostKeep making what up?
How about YOU show me where contracts are signed to the PBC and not Haymon himself.
Then account for the fighters who don't have written contracts with Haymon like GRJ and Mikey.
So if Jessie Vargas has a deal with the PBC, how is he able to fight on DAZN? That makes no sense. How would any of these fighters be allowed to fight elsewhere if the deal is with the PBC and not Haymon?
And who is to say he can't get a deal elsewhere if he brings his fighters with him? Who is to say DAZN won't bring him along if he brings them Wilder/Spence/etc? Stop overthinking this. Glaser is a known fraud with his posts. The sale of the PBC very well may be true and this was rumored in the past. WME has been trying to get in boxing for a while and tried to purchase TR or at least their library not too long ago. So all this is believable. What is not, is taking Haymon completely out of the picture and expecting to take his fighters. The PBC brand is nothing to the fighters. They are fighting on FOX/SHO because that is who Haymon has network deals with.
Second how can Jessie vargas fight in DAZN? Really u are asking that? Pbc is a management company. Not a promoter. He can fight where ever he wants lol. He has a manager inline before al and a promotional contract with Matchroom. You keep talking about pbc like it’s a promoter. You would be having the pbc violate the Muhammad Ali act the way you talk.
It’s a managerial company. Just like wilder could have signed with Matchroom or DAZN.
You keep getting it twisted.
You are losing your argument badly so now u gave to lean on questioning the validity of glazers story. Truth be told none of us know if it’s valid. He’s wrong sometimes. Right sometimes.
If it’s a forced sell Haymon won’t be part of pbc. If it’s voluntary he will be. That’s a fact.
Haymon is 65. Made a ton of money. He may not be a lifer like arum or king. He may want to sell off and retire too. No one knows.
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Originally posted by killakali View Postsee you off the reserve again. First off it’s very few with a mikey or GRJ deal and even those guts sign a contract for each fight they take. It’s very few.
Second how can Jessie vargas fight in DAZN? Really u are asking that? Pbc is a management company. Not a promoter. He can fight where ever he wants lol. He has a manager inline before al and a promotional contract with Matchroom. You keep talking about pbc like it’s a promoter. You would be having the pbc violate the Muhammad Ali act the way you talk.
It’s a managerial company. Just like wilder could have signed with Matchroom or DAZN.
You keep getting it twisted.
You are losing your argument badly so now u gave to lean on questioning the validity of glazers story. Truth be told none of us know if it’s valid. He’s wrong sometimes. Right sometimes.
If it’s a forced sell Haymon won’t be part of pbc. If it’s voluntary he will be. That’s a fact.
Haymon is 65. Made a ton of money. He may not be a lifer like arum or king. He may want to sell off and retire too. No one knows.
No, you simply can't comprehend and that is the issue here. So it is proven that PBC fighters can fight on other networks correct? Okay cool, glad we got that out of the way. So if the WME in this hypothetical gets rights to all of Haymon's contracts, then they can surely go fight elsewhere, right? What is going to prevent Spence from saying fighting on ESPN or DAZN? What can the WME do to prevent that?
The reason these fighters fight on SHO/FOX is because of Haymon, not the actual PBC brand. Read that slowly. You lose Haymon, there is NOTHING preventing those fighters from going elsewhere. That is the entire point here. So the WME ends up getting these network deals, with potentially losing out on all the big names.
So now you bring up Haymon being 65 and wanting to just retire? That is completely different from what Glaser said.
And um yes, why wouldn't Glaser's validity be questioned here when none of this makes any sense?
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Originally posted by killakali View PostProve it. Show it to me.
https://www.linkedin.com/company/ko-sports
https://help.fox.com/s/article/What-is-PBC-on-FOX
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