Where does Mayweather rank realistically on an all time list?

[elfag]

top 20 even for haters. shoe in for the top 10.


Hes already hated a lot less than around 2006-2008ish, the boards were crazy with mayweather hate and there were a ton of people (not just pac fans) not giving him his due. Atleast these days he gets his due.

The longer past his retirement, the more highly he will be rated.

If you were on the boxing sites back when lennox lewis was active, you will remember the endless hate on him for being boring, "fighting scared", hugging too much ect. Now hes like a top 3 heavyweight of all time and people were begging for his comeback.

That hate switched over to vitali, blah blah hes robotic, ect. Now people miss him too and hate on wladimir, though thats going away.


Anyways point is that fighters will get rated more realistically once their career is over and the hate from fans of rival fighters will die down.

[Reloaded]

Floyd's resume is going to age ridiculously well, even if the criticisms are valid.

Because his resume is for real he fought and beat a bunch of great fighters in 5 weight classes, not like a paper tiger in GGG who beaten nobody.

Floyd had a real quality career and it will most definitely age like good wine as the over all quality has time to be digested in the light of all the failures of others hyped to better than him.

Floyd was the real deal and time will acknowledge him universally as one of the greatest to ever live.

[Willy Wanker]

Top 25-30.

[ADP02]

LOL you are so desperate I can literally feel your pain in every word, youre a delusional lost soul .

The thought of GGG not landing a glove on Floyd is tipping you over the edge, man your obsession with Floyd has ruined your life. that's a hell of a reflection of how your brain works, get some help my friend before its too late.

Man, you are right. I'm sad about one thing. If this was pre-Canelo days, you would be on my side. You know, prior to Floyd demanding that Canelo CW and drain himself down to 152.

Floyd demanding another CW?

Now, CWs are no problem. Draining down to 154? Its cool for RELOADED. RELOADED, what gives? Why the change? All good? RELOADED ..... Makes me said Nope, makes me laugh


If its not a problem and you think that GGG would not lay a glove on Floyd then why not have him weigh the weight GGG fights at? See how dumb your post sounds?

[Reloaded]

Man, you are right. I'm sad about one thing. If this was pre-Canelo days, you would be on my side. You know, prior to Floyd demanding that Canelo CW and drain himself down to 152.

Floyd demanding another CW?

Now, CWs are no problem. Draining down to 154? Its cool for RELOADED. RELOADED, what gives? Why the change? All good? RELOADED ..... Makes me said Nope, makes me laugh


If its not a problem and you think that GGG would not lay a glove on Floyd then why not have him weigh the weight GGG fights at? See how dumb your post sounds?

Get some help.

[ADP02]

Floyd's resume is going to age ridiculously well, even if the criticisms are valid.

Yup, they will be looking at stuff like this and laughing while bringing it down a few notches:

- Fights Juan Marquez who never had fought at 140 nor 147 at 144lbs. Marquez had just moved up to fight at 135. Floyd breaks the initial contract by coming in an extra 2lbs instead of draining it off, like most other top boxers would try to do.

Floyd pays off Marquez, and the fight goes on!


- Floyd and company markets Maidana as this killer KO artist. 24 hours prior to the fight, removes Maidana's preferred gloves and says "No wonder you were KOing people .... You have to fight in these other gloves. My health is more important!!!!!"

- Hatton was KING at 140, Floyd fought him at.... 147 where Hatton struggled!

- Floyd fought prime Martinez, Williams, Pacquiao, Oscar, Mosley, ...... Skipped some, fought the rest when Floyd said this:
"Manny's not the same fighter anymore"
"My game plan will take into consideration that Mosley is old,.... "


There is more, .... but like you said, "going to age ridiculously well"



.

[Reloaded]

Yup, they will be looking at stuff like this and laughing while bringing it down a few notches:

- Fights Juan Marquez who never had fought at 140 nor 147 at 144lbs. Marquez had just moved up to fight at 135. Floyd breaks the initial contract by coming in an extra 2lbs instead of draining it off, like most other top boxers would try to do.

Floyd pays off Marquez, and the fight goes on!


- Floyd and company markets Maidana as this killer KO artist. 24 hours prior to the fight, removes Maidana's preferred gloves and says "No wonder you were KOing people .... You have to fight in these other gloves. My health is more important!!!!!"

- Hatton was KING at 140, Floyd fought him at.... 147 where Hatton struggled!

- Floyd fought prime Martinez, Williams, Pacquiao, Oscar, Mosley, ...... Skipped some, fought the rest when Floyd said this:
"Manny's not the same fighter anymore"
"My game plan will take into consideration that Mosley is old,.... "


There is more, .... but like you said, "going to age ridiculously well"



.

Come on man Im concerned with your mental health, do yourself a favor and go and see a specialist, if you lack courage maybe go down the local church confessional first and have a chat through the screen Im sure it will give you great confidence to confront what ever the specialist may tell you, its the road to your freedom do not fear it.

Its your only life my good friend you need to enjoy this gift not waste if frivolously getting reamed in here every day, you are better than than a reaming and we believe in you returning to the old happy go lucky ADPO2 not this monster with a bolt sticking out his neck.

Its not fun for us watching you lose your soul while being reamed like a smelly crack whore, its truly disheartening for us to watch you suffer like this if you cannot do it for yourself do it for us.

Please hear the echoes of wisdom and get some help before you're reduced to a mental wasteland where only seagulls will sht on your remains.

We are all pulling for you buddy don't forget that.

Good luck .

[The D3vil]

We can't have it both ways, either its cheating or it is not. Floyd himself claims it is, yet he feels he is above the rules when gaining an edge. He doesn't get a pass, especially when he is the one who started this whole movement of blood testing.

Yet, Holyfield, Pacquiao and others do?

[whoelsebutjames]

When Leonard was fighting there were 3 belts..there has been more then one title belt for over 40 years

Right!

Lol. They love harping on **** thay sounds good but ain't true. If it was innocent it would be forgivable but it malicious.

I have Floyd at around number 5 ATG. That's talent, skill, and the overall factors. Ali(prior to the "draft dodging")and Leonard were more talented and probably had more heart. Ali was easily the most physically gifted fighter. His speed for his size was unparrelled. And the fact that most of his career milestones came after he lost some of his speed and legs is amazing Itself.

These questions really are for fighters of recent history. Still, It's impossible to rank eras of the far past. Anybody who isn't 80 years old-- that says they can completely factor in fighters from 40, 50 60+ years without some kind of second hand biased is full of ****.
So when people pull out the jack Johnsons and brown bombers they're just trying to be cute.

1. Robinson
2 The greatest
3. Duran

[hugh grant]

Floyd is about 20th. The guys he's been favouriute against and beat dont have the pedigree to get him higher.
They were past prime and not even that great in first place, or smaller. Evedn if they were prime ie dlh, SSM, PAC he would only move up a handful of places, top 15 ranking would be best he could hope for.

So he can fight GGG at 160 . that could push Floyd into top 5. He's nothing to lose as he's not expected to win. And no ody consuders Floyd unbeaten anyway