Floyd's Size Did Not Give Him An Advantage Against Marquez

[FkDaHtrs]

Tall fighters, like Paul Williams, have a height advantage. However, like Paul Williams, their height does not give them an edge in the fight if they are always bent over to their opponents level.

A longer reach gives you a reach advantage. However, your reach will not give you an edge in a fight if you're fighting in the pocket the whole fight.


Floyd had a weight advantage against Marquez but his weight did not give him an edge. Why? Because you have to USE your weight advantage for it to give you an edge. How? You clinch. Put your opponent on the ropes and lay on them. Push them around with your body and stay in their chest. Floyd was not doing that at all. He fought Marquez on the outside using jabs, hooks, and right hands all night. Neither did his weight allow him to punch harder. Marquez was never wobbled or hurt. He went down in the second like he always does, seemingly from poor balance. Katsidis had him more hurt than Floyd did.

Also note that Floyd was slipping, dodging, ducking, and backing away from Marquez' attacks. Did his extra weight enable him with greater agility? More weight is supposed to work against a big person trying to be agile.

You can't say that the extra weight enabled Floyd to take Marquez' punches because Marquez was not landing any punches. Floyd's weight did not give him an edge against Marquez because he never used it to his advantage. If you can't come up with a valid argument in objection to this fact then you should not reply at all because you'll only make yourself sound silly.

Case closed.

I've always thought, if the weight really effected Marquez like a lot of people say, it would have effected him over the long hall. IMO, early on he would be nearly just as effective, but he still couldn't hit Floyd. He only put on about 10 or 15 pounds, right? Thats not enough to slow you down early on to the point you can't land a thing, but it might be kicking your but after 4 or 5 rounds if you're not used to it. I could be wrong but that's how it looks to me.

[Fish_Scotland]

Tall fighters, like Paul Williams, have a height advantage. However, like Paul Williams, their height does not give them an edge in the fight if they are always bent over to their opponents level.

A longer reach gives you a reach advantage. However, your reach will not give you an edge in a fight if you're fighting in the pocket the whole fight.


Floyd had a weight advantage against Marquez but his weight did not give him an edge. Why? Because you have to USE your weight advantage for it to give you an edge. How? You clinch. Put your opponent on the ropes and lay on them. Push them around with your body and stay in their chest. Floyd was not doing that at all. He fought Marquez on the outside using jabs, hooks, and right hands all night. Neither did his weight allow him to punch harder. Marquez was never wobbled or hurt. He went down in the second like he always does, seemingly from poor balance. Katsidis had him more hurt than Floyd did.

Also note that Floyd was slipping, dodging, ducking, and backing away from Marquez' attacks. Did his extra weight enable him with greater agility? More weight is supposed to work against a big person trying to be agile.

You can't say that the extra weight enabled Floyd to take Marquez' punches because Marquez was not landing any punches. Floyd's weight did not give him an edge against Marquez because he never used it to his advantage. If you can't come up with a valid argument in objection to this fact then you should not reply at all because you'll only make yourself sound silly.

Case closed.

Floyds weight was not the advantage, Marquez' weight was to the advantage of Floyd......

[Dirk Diggler UK]

COME ON..................It wasn't THAT much of a joke of a fight until Floyd made it so. Just like the Mosley beatdown. Come on man. Marquez is a tough night's work for ANYONE. Even @ 144lbs+. He's a tough guy. Give credit where credit is due. Floyd whooped him. It wouldn't have mattered one way or the other about the weight. Floyd was just too much for him. Admit it!

It wasnt even a fight that anyone talked about until Floyd made it....

Yes Floyd was too much for him....because it was a joke fight. JMM is one of my favourite fighters but he has no business above 135.

[Mr. Philadel]

Floyd's size was a factor BUT not more than his skill set

[bojangles1987]

Tall fighters, like Paul Williams, have a height advantage. However, like Paul Williams, their height does not give them an edge in the fight if they are always bent over to their opponents level.

A longer reach gives you a reach advantage. However, your reach will not give you an edge in a fight if you're fighting in the pocket the whole fight.


Floyd had a weight advantage against Marquez but his weight did not give him an edge. Why? Because you have to USE your weight advantage for it to give you an edge. How? You clinch. Put your opponent on the ropes and lay on them. Push them around with your body and stay in their chest. Floyd was not doing that at all. He fought Marquez on the outside using jabs, hooks, and right hands all night. Neither did his weight allow him to punch harder. Marquez was never wobbled or hurt. He went down in the second like he always does, seemingly from poor balance. Katsidis had him more hurt than Floyd did.

Also note that Floyd was slipping, dodging, ducking, and backing away from Marquez' attacks. Did his extra weight enable him with greater agility? More weight is supposed to work against a big person trying to be agile.

You can't say that the extra weight enabled Floyd to take Marquez' punches because Marquez was not landing any punches. Floyd's weight did not give him an edge against Marquez because he never used it to his advantage. If you can't come up with a valid argument in objection to this fact then you should not reply at all because you'll only make yourself sound silly.

Case closed.

Yes it did. One's grown into a full fledged welterweight, one is stretching their limit at lightweight and was a chubby bloated welterweight. Deny it all you want, that fight was a joke.

[TheGreatA]

I'd say the 2nd round perfectly illustrated why the fight was a mismatch due to size. Marquez hit Floyd with his best shot, and Floyd didn't budge. Moments later Mayweather hit Marquez with a left hook, and Marquez went down. After that there was no question whatsoever about the eventual winner.

[bojangles1987]

I'd say the 2nd round perfectly illustrated why the fight was a mismatch due to size. Marquez hit Floyd with his best shot, and Floyd didn't budge. Moments later Mayweather hit Marquez with a left hook, and Marquez went down. After that there was no question whatsoever about the eventual victor.

NO!!!!! You can't use logic here!!!

[simpson69]

Not only was weight a factor but Marquez wasn't fighting his fight. Marquez is a counter puncher like Floyd but he knew floyd wouldn't be the aggressor, therefor he had to change his style and attack and got countered.

[Anti~Jalandoni]

Exactly.

Floyd won with the size of his ring IQ not the size of his waist.

But still size counts right?

[Pacquiao'd]

Not only was weight a factor but Marquez wasn't fighting his fight. Marquez is a counter puncher like Floyd but he knew floyd wouldn't be the aggressor, therefor he had to change his style and attack and got countered.

yep...................