Floyd's Size Did Not Give Him An Advantage Against Marquez

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  • Mr.0pal
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    Floyd's Size Did Not Give Him An Advantage Against Marquez

    Tall fighters, like Paul Williams, have a height advantage. However, like Paul Williams, their height does not give them an edge in the fight if they are always bent over to their opponents level.

    A longer reach gives you a reach advantage. However, your reach will not give you an edge in a fight if you're fighting in the pocket the whole fight.


    Floyd had a weight advantage against Marquez but his weight did not give him an edge. Why? Because you have to USE your weight advantage for it to give you an edge. How? You clinch. Put your opponent on the ropes and lay on them. Push them around with your body and stay in their chest. Floyd was not doing that at all. He fought Marquez on the outside using jabs, hooks, and right hands all night. Neither did his weight allow him to punch harder. Marquez was never wobbled or hurt. He went down in the second like he always does, seemingly from poor balance. Katsidis had him more hurt than Floyd did.

    Also note that Floyd was slipping, dodging, ducking, and backing away from Marquez' attacks. Did his extra weight enable him with greater agility? More weight is supposed to work against a big person trying to be agile.

    You can't say that the extra weight enabled Floyd to take Marquez' punches because Marquez was not landing any punches. Floyd's weight did not give him an edge against Marquez because he never used it to his advantage. If you can't come up with a valid argument in objection to this fact then you should not reply at all because you'll only make yourself sound silly.

    Case closed.
    Last edited by Mr.0pal; 12-23-2010, 12:04 AM.
  • Young Money
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    #2
    Exactly.

    Floyd won with the size of his ring IQ not the size of his waist.

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    • DAN916
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      #3
      Originally posted by Mr.0pal
      Tall fighters, like Paul Williams, have a height advantage. However, like Paul Williams, their height does not give them an edge in the fight if they are always bent over to their opponents level.

      A longer reach gives you a reach advantage. However, your reach will not give you an edge in a fight if you're fighting in the pocket the whole fight.


      Floyd had a weight advantage against Marquez but his weight did not give him an edge. Why? Because you have to USE your weight advantage for it to give you an edge. How? You clinch. Put your opponent on the ropes and lay on them. Push them around with your body and stay in their chest. Floyd was not doing that at all. He fought Marquez on the outside using jabs, hooks, and right hands all night. Neither did his weight allow him to punch harder. Marquez was never wobbled or hurt. He went down in the second like he always does, seemingly from poor balance. Katsidis had him more hurt than Floyd did.

      You can't say that the extra weight enabled Floyd to take Marquez' punches because Marquez was not landing any punches. Floyd's weight did not give him an edge against Marquez because he never used it to his advantage. If you can't come up with a valid argument in objection to this fact then you should not reply at all because you'll only make yourself sound silly.

      Case closed.
      Youre right if they would of fought at 135 back in the day floyd would of stopped him.

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      • Woosha
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        #4
        Only advantages Floyd had were superior skills & the fact that JMM's frame cannot competitvely support anything nearing welter

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        • Mr.0pal
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          #5
          Originally posted by Young Money
          Exactly.

          Floyd won with the size of his ring IQ not the size of his waist.
          The majority of people in these forums are just....

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          • goldenglove2
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            #6
            Originally posted by Mr.0pal
            Tall fighters, like Paul Williams, have a height advantage. However, like Paul Williams, their height does not give them an edge in the fight if they are always bent over to their opponents level.

            A longer reach gives you a reach advantage. However, your reach will not give you an edge in a fight if you're fighting in the pocket the whole fight.


            Floyd had a weight advantage against Marquez but his weight did not give him an edge. Why? Because you have to USE your weight advantage for it to give you an edge. How? You clinch. Put your opponent on the ropes and lay on them. Push them around with your body and stay in their chest. Floyd was not doing that at all. He fought Marquez on the outside using jabs, hooks, and right hands all night. Neither did his weight allow him to punch harder. Marquez was never wobbled or hurt. He went down in the second like he always does, seemingly from poor balance. Katsidis had him more hurt than Floyd did.

            You can't say that the extra weight enabled Floyd to take Marquez' punches because Marquez was not landing any punches. Floyd's weight did not give him an edge against Marquez because he never used it to his advantage. If you can't come up with a valid argument in objection to this fact then you should not reply at all because you'll only make yourself sound silly.

            Case closed.
            this is the dumbest thing I have ever read......

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            • danny711
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              #7
              Making JMM come up 2 divisions is an advantage.

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              • DARKSEID
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                #8
                Originally posted by Mr.0pal
                The majority of people in these forums are just....
                I completely agree.

                Like the ones that say mayweather didn't have a substantial advantage over marquez.. lmao

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                  #9
                  Floyd's size did not give him an advantage against Marquez. FACT.
                  Marquez's size gave him a huge disadvantage against Floyd. FACT.

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                  • Young Money
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                    #10
                    The style in which Mayweather boxes does not rely on physical size or strength.

                    He was just the superior boxer in terms of skill.

                    Keep in mind Marquez was ranked #2 P4P at the time.

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