Why do American Fighters Keep Ducking?

[Randall Cunning]

So AJ now works for Sky Sports? I’ve heard it all now.

If Joshua don't want Wilder there he aint gonna be there. Hes been invited, Joshua holds control over everything

[Tygshsu]

The better question is why do those fighters come to the US instead of staying in their own countries?

You know the answer to this, so you also know the answer why these guys have to wait to get shots at top US fighters.

LOL u bunch of hypocrites.You complain when the likes of Joshua dont want to come to your ****t country,saying he needs the US.Then you go and say,'why do these fighters come to the US'.Maybe it's because the Seniors in America have realised they can mug off silly Americans with PPV Prices and Ticket Prices and they know these silly little Yanks will pay for it.That is why every fighter wants to fight in the US as Golden Boy and Byrd showed,Corruption and everything that is wrong with Boxing from a fans point of view can be found in the US.

[Larry the boss]

what a stupid thread, that started off on nothing but lies

[Larry the boss]

How is Wilder ducking Joshua?? Joshua and Hearn said themselves they didnt want it right now

How did Mayweather duck Manny from 09-14?? Manny walked away over drug testing

And Khan hasn't fought a top fighter at 147 period, NONE!!!

Ward jumped to 175 and fought the damn boogyman 2 times.AFTER CLEANING OUT 168.........THATS NOT GOOD ENOUGH??

[Outwest Exp 355]

If Joshua don't want Wilder there he aint gonna be there. Hes been invited, Joshua holds control over everything

Please the man that never speaks controls everything. Child please he ain’t no Al Haymon.

[The Big Dunn]

LOL u bunch of hypocrites.You complain when the likes of Joshua dont want to come to your ****t country,saying he needs the US.Then you go and say,'why do these fighters come to the US'.Maybe it's because the Seniors in America have realised they can mug off silly Americans with PPV Prices and Ticket Prices and they know these silly little Yanks will pay for it.That is why every fighter wants to fight in the US as Golden Boy and Byrd showed,Corruption and everything that is wrong with Boxing from a fans point of view can be found in the US.

Vegas is still the boxing capital of the world. You make the most money in a big Vegas event fight. that is why people suggest Joshua should come to the US. If he can come here and dominate he will be a true international star rather than just a European star.

If Joshua chooses to stay in England then he will never get complete respect. Sort of like if a soccer player stays his whole career in MLS and never plays where the best players play in Europe and South America.

If you don't like the US, cool. Just don't call us when you need help.

[Randall Cunning]

Please the man that never speaks controls everything. Child please he ain’t no Al Haymon.

Who does then? Hearn? Hes just a glorified PA when it comes to Joshua. Joshua got his own team.

[soul_survivor]

How is Wilder ducking Joshua?? Joshua and Hearn said themselves they didnt want it right now

How did Mayweather duck Manny from 09-14?? Manny walked away over drug testing

And Khan hasn't fought a top fighter at 147 period, NONE!!!

Ward jumped to 175 and fought the damn boogyman 2 times.AFTER CLEANING OUT 168.........THATS NOT GOOD ENOUGH??

When did AJ say he didn't want the fight? It is pretty well documented that Wilder was offered the fight, first through a two fight deal, starting with Whyte and then through a stand alone bout. Wilder turned them both down.

Wilder is the only one i've heard complain about the money and location. Show me multiple sources which say Hearn or AJ do not want the AJ fight and I'll delete this whole thread.

As for Pacquiao, show me where he said he would never do drug testing and that led to the fight being called off? The truth is, and you know this because you've been humiliated by it enough times, that Mayweather sprung an Olympic style drug test demand (Which never happened in 2015 anyway) out of nowhere, then said the entire country of the Philippines was guilty of being the world's capital in PEDs.

the courts got involved etc etc. In terms of fight negotiations, Pac said he did not want blood testing prior to the weigh in, but he was happy to provide urine. He also said he'd be happy to provide blood post fight. Mayweather turned that down without wanting to negotiate in a serious manner for another 4 years.

We also have the famous video of him claiming Pac hit too hard so wouldn't fight him.

Ward ducked fights for 4 years. His best opponent in that time was Barrera lol

Vegas is still the boxing capital of the world. You make the most money in a big Vegas event fight. that is why people suggest Joshua should come to the US. If he can come here and dominate he will be a true international star rather than just a European star.

If Joshua chooses to stay in England then he will never get complete respect. Sort of like if a soccer player stays his whole career in MLS and never plays where the best players play in Europe and South America.

If you don't like the US, cool. Just don't call us when you need help.

Vegas is still an important boxing city but it is nowhere near being the centre of the heavyweight or cruiser divisions. It's been that way for 15 years and you know it.

Germany and the UK have just held the two biggest heavyweight bouts since Tyson/Lewis, with Wlad/Fury and Wlad/AJ. You know that for a fact. You also know the top heavyweights in europe get paid more than the top heavies in the US...and by a vast distance.

The reality is this, Wilder is avoiding AJ, first he said he wanted AJ straight away without fighting Whyte. When that was offered to him, he said he didn't like the money (ten times more than anything he has ever earned) or the location (London is THE place for big heavyweight fights now).

He can take his ball and go home because no one knows who he is. Parker will become a more known and wealthier commodity by losing to AJ than Wilder will be by fighting middle aged men in Alabama.

[The Big Dunn]

When did AJ say he didn't want the fight? It is pretty well documented that Wilder was offered the fight, first through a two fight deal, starting with Whyte and then through a stand alone bout. Wilder turned them both down.

Wilder is the only one i've heard complain about the money and location. Show me multiple sources which say Hearn or AJ do not want the AJ fight and I'll delete this whole thread.

As for Pacquiao, show me where he said he would never do drug testing and that led to the fight being called off? The truth is, and you know this because you've been humiliated by it enough times, that Mayweather sprung an Olympic style drug test demand (Which never happened in 2015 anyway) out of nowhere, then said the entire country of the Philippines was guilty of being the world's capital in PEDs.

the courts got involved etc etc. In terms of fight negotiations, Pac said he did not want blood testing prior to the weigh in, but he was happy to provide urine. He also said he'd be happy to provide blood post fight. Mayweather turned that down without wanting to negotiate in a serious manner for another 4 years.

We also have the famous video of him claiming Pac hit too hard so wouldn't fight him.

Ward ducked fights for 4 years. His best opponent in that time was Barrera lol



Vegas is still an important boxing city but it is nowhere near being the centre of the heavyweight or cruiser divisions. It's been that way for 15 years and you know it.

Germany and the UK have just held the two biggest heavyweight bouts since Tyson/Lewis, with Wlad/Fury and Wlad/AJ. You know that for a fact. You also know the top heavyweights in europe get paid more than the top heavies in the US...and by a vast distance.

The reality is this, Wilder is avoiding AJ, first he said he wanted AJ straight away without fighting Whyte. When that was offered to him, he said he didn't like the money (ten times more than anything he has ever earned) or the location (London is THE place for big heavyweight fights now).

He can take his ball and go home because no one knows who he is. Parker will become a more known and wealthier commodity by losing to AJ than Wilder will be by fighting middle aged men in Alabama.

Disagree. Just because Wlad chose not to fight there doesn't change the fact that Vegas is still the boxing capital.

They would make more in Vegas, even with the smaller crowd size. I can understand why a WLad/Fury and Wlad/Joshua happens overseas-Wlad didn't want to fight in Vegas and the other guys are European names, not truly big international stars.

Stop it. Wilder isn't avoiding AJ. Joshua decided to make some extra dough instead of fighting Wilder right now. Cool, we all get that.

Wilder is fighting a more respected fighter than Whyte in Ortiz. Why would he fight in England against Whyte (to set up a clash in England) when everyone knows the fight would generate more revenue in Las Vegas?

I completely understand if Joshua prefers to fight in front of 90k home fans rather than in Vegas. He is the bigger draw right now and he should get to choose. I think he is giving up a chance to become a true international star but that is just my opinion. That said, Wilder has said he would travel to England.

Stop making stupid posts just to try and make a point. Parker is a no name. Joshua chose to fight him instead of make a deal with Wilder. Joshua can keep making easy fights or he can fight the one dude with enough power to take his titles.

Will he be man enough????

[soul_survivor]

Disagree. Just because Wlad chose not to fight there doesn't change the fact that Vegas is still the boxing capital.

You can't disagree based on facts.

Wlad's fights never made as much in the US as they did in Europe.

Plenty of US heavyweights have fought in Vegas since the end of American domination, none of them have made a fraction of what AJ did in terms of purse. None of them have even been on any meaningful PPV.

You can't keep denying it and live in fantasy land.