honest belief about aj/wilder

[lfc19titles]

From the outset wilder has destroyed the fight

Demanding unrealistic splits

Refusing to send details of a offer

Rejecting meetings to make the fight

And finally this, turning down 100m

Aj wants it

Wilder fears aj

It’s simple

[Curt Henning]

oh is that what happened lol. so floyd changed his demands when pac was in his prime and only offered him 40 million no ppv but after pac got knocked out and his star was starting to fade he offered him a 45-55 split. that makes perfect

it does make perfect sense....pacs star was starting to decline after jmm knocked him out

he still got a good deal and made out...but arum was only willing after seeing pacs cloak of invincibility shattered....

its funny...there are articles about arums 99 different quotes/excuses and even fat dan blamed arum...yet youre in denial...fat dan was even one of the bigger manny cheerleaders....but I guess you know more lol...im sure you have a bunch of insiders and tipsters in the boxing world huh?! LOL

[Curt Henning]

plain and simple

DAZN=100 percent of the fight they are happy and virtually risk averted

50-50 fight=AJ loses and DAZN watched 200 mil investment in AJ go down the drain

50-50 fight=wilder loses and the pbc doesn't lose much and they move on

its simple math boys...DAZN is desperate to have 100 percent rights to the fight....and the desperation is smelled by team wilder

[lfc19titles]

All you wilder fans do is make excuses for him to not fight aj

That’s all, locked into a tv deal ? It’s only a 3 fight deal and it’s for stupid money

Wilder will make less than what dazn offers

Just like him making 7m for fury and turning down 10m for Whyte and 15m for aj

Wilder will lose soon and be finished, his team has cost him 20m at least in earnings so far

Make that 120m actually

[daggum]

think about it realistically though

if DAZN does a 50/50 fight with AJ/wilder and AJ loses....then what?

if pbc does a 50/50 and wilder loses what do they really lose? not much...and they just made some good money having half of that fight

DAZN is desperate to have 100 percent rights to that fight....so if AJ loses it softens the blow....if AJ were to lose a fight that they split with wilders side it would be a big blow after all the money theve invested in AJ

wilders people know this...they aren't going to jump into their arms....DAZN cant really afford to have AJ lose unless they own 100 percent of the fight....wilders side isn't just gonna give into them and give them exactly what they need/want

oh ok sorry i wasnt doing that before. now ill be realistic like you

[lfc19titles]

plain and simple

DAZN=100 percent of the fight they are happy and virtually risk averted

50-50 fight=AJ loses and DAZN watched 200 mil investment in AJ go down the drain

50-50 fight=wilder loses and the pbc doesn't lose much and they move on

its simple math boys...DAZN is desperate to have 100 percent rights to the fight....and the desperation is smelled by team wilder

You don’t understand their model, you think you do but you don’t judging by your posts

Dazn make their money on subscriptions and advertising, their plan is to get the best boxers from all demographics to increase their count. To also increase it they would want the best fighting the best, aj is on a fight by fight deal by dazn and they have not invested too much yet compared to say canelo

It doesn’t matter to them if aj loses as all they care about is the monthly suscriptions and getting the best boxers. If they have most of the best and put on good fights, their members will increase, their their plan. It’s obvious

You are just making excuses for wilder ducking aj and have made this fantasy on your mind as an excuse for wilder

[Lopez_Boxing]

my honest, unbiased, belief here

the situation somewhat mirros Floyd/pac...although wilder is certainly not near where either of those guys were at the time as far as "stardom"

but its similar....Floyd got jerked around by arum....Floyd thought he was negotiating with them and the whole time bob had no intention on making the fight...he had clottey and dallas in his pocket the whole time....so much that when they announced that Floyd was left dumbfounded....he had to get haymon to break up berto/mosley so that Floyd himself could get mosley...because Floyd was left without a big dance partner

b

Haymon/floyd didnt break up berto/mosely. Berto dropped out because the huge hurricane that hit his island killing members of his family.

Unless you're saying floyd got haymon to use his weather controlling machine to cause the hurricane that hit Haiti, then yeah that I can believe.

[W1LL]

I am going to post before reading the OP. I have never seen this poster posting anything other than hate for British fighters. I will be very, very surprised if this is anything other than nationalistic, biased, DKSAB drivel. Now, I will read the post.

[Tyistall]

my honest, unbiased, belief here

the situation somewhat mirros Floyd/pac...although wilder is certainly not near where either of those guys were at the time as far as "stardom"

but its similar....Floyd got jerked around by arum....Floyd thought he was negotiating with them and the whole time bob had no intention on making the fight...he had clottey and dallas in his pocket the whole time....so much that when they announced that Floyd was left dumbfounded....he had to get haymon to break up berto/mosley so that Floyd himself could get mosley...because Floyd was left without a big dance partner

if Floyd didn't want that pac fight they would have just made Floyd/shane from the get go

looking at aj/wilder....it was much the same from hearn....I can go over all the guys that have blamed hearn and all the quotes and stupid sheet hes said and done..all the backtracking an flip flopping...the contradictions and all the dumb stuff AJ said...I wont bother.......but hearn jerked wilders team around and on top of that acted like a child and called an old man silly names like a kid

wilder now knows that AJ kind of needs this fight...idc what AJ fans say or think....soon AJ is going to need this fight...the public and the boxing media will demand it...they wont stand to let it go too long the way pac/Floyd did.....they saw something like that playing out with canelo/ggg possibly....so they acted and put pressure on canelo

maybe AJ can get a fury fight..or a usyk fight...but other than that the public isn't going to tolerate him fighting millers and povetkin much longer even if it will still sell in the UK

wilder knows this....hes having his fun with them....hes not going to give in and let them have this fight on their terms solely....hes going to fight dom and then come back to them and say "lets do this....but were not doing this just DAZN thing....were both bringing something to the table and its not going to be a DAZN fight solely"

wilder can turn down their deal and the demand for the AJ/wilder fight will still be there after brezeale...he can come back to them after AJ fights miller.....he knows he doesn't have to give in and hes not about to give into hearn even if hearn isn't actually present at the meetings...giving into them is giving into hearn and wilders team is full of people much smarter than hearn...that's just fact

even though DAZN is separate from hearn....they are also related.....you don't go jerking someone like wilder around...someone with powerful men backing him....and then expect him to jump for you and run into your arms because you are shouting about some money that will still be on the table anyway

that 100 mil can still be made by wilder...maybe even more

I know some people here think AJ is beyond reproach and bulletproof...but trust me...if he isn't willing to come to the table to fight wilder without the demand that wilder signs a tv contract with his company than he will feel the heat

people will scream "100 million 100 million 100 million omg yer an idiot".....remember who backs wilder.... smart men who know value and have been involved in some of the biggest fights in boxing......if they turn it down its because they see more potential for this fight if its down without this app and flat money...... its not because they are worried....if they were worried they wouldn't have said "send us a contract for 2018 and well fight in the UK for 12.5"......wilders team aren't worried...they just know better than a bunch of internet twats who hear "100 million" and think that's the best that can be had.....

Man, you really need to stop. You are sounding like Wilder's little ***** at this point. Your boy is a bum beating, overrated, WBC protected fraud who lost his last fight. And he's now refusing to fight for all the belts and 100 million. There's no way to spin that at this point, it's a clear duck. Get off this man's dick and maybe you can see clearly. You sound stupid as **** at this point defending someone who has no intention of fighting good opponents or fighting for all the belts.

[W1LL]

Okay. Well, AJ could close out his career fighting Whyte II, Fury and Usyk, amongst a few others. Throw in Dubois, Joyce and Hrgovic. He will make a few hundred million and retire with an impeccable resume, and no doubts that he was one of, if not the best in his era. No matter what anyone says, Wilder cannot do the same. Wilder will never make twenty million fighting a Miller or a Povetkin. You have to accept these fighters are in different stratospheres. Wilder is nowhere near AJ when it comes to market value and the only way he ever will be is by beating AJ. So the only logical path is taking the deal. Fighting Breazeale and Kownacki on Showtime is a road to nowhere.

I am honestly in awe that there are still people here trying to defend team Wilder if they don't take this offer from DAZN. Wilder and his people seem to live in Bizarro world.