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  • Curt Henning
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    honest belief about aj/wilder

    my honest, unbiased, belief here

    the situation somewhat mirros Floyd/pac...although wilder is certainly not near where either of those guys were at the time as far as "stardom"

    but its similar....Floyd got jerked around by arum....Floyd thought he was negotiating with them and the whole time bob had no intention on making the fight...he had clottey and dallas in his pocket the whole time....so much that when they announced that Floyd was left dumbfounded....he had to get haymon to break up berto/mosley so that Floyd himself could get mosley...because Floyd was left without a big dance partner

    if Floyd didn't want that pac fight they would have just made Floyd/shane from the get go

    looking at aj/wilder....it was much the same from hearn....I can go over all the guys that have blamed hearn and all the quotes and ****** sheet hes said and done..all the backtracking an flip flopping...the contradictions and all the dumb stuff AJ said...I wont bother.......but hearn jerked wilders team around and on top of that acted like a child and called an old man silly names like a kid

    wilder now knows that AJ kind of needs this fight...idc what AJ fans say or think....soon AJ is going to need this fight...the public and the boxing media will demand it...they wont stand to let it go too long the way pac/Floyd did.....they saw something like that playing out with canelo/ggg possibly....so they acted and put pressure on canelo

    maybe AJ can get a fury fight..or a usyk fight...but other than that the public isn't going to tolerate him fighting millers and povetkin much longer even if it will still sell in the UK

    wilder knows this....hes having his fun with them....hes not going to give in and let them have this fight on their terms solely....hes going to fight dom and then come back to them and say "lets do this....but were not doing this just DAZN thing....were both bringing something to the table and its not going to be a DAZN fight solely"

    wilder can turn down their deal and the demand for the AJ/wilder fight will still be there after brezeale...he can come back to them after AJ fights miller.....he knows he doesn't have to give in and hes not about to give into hearn even if hearn isn't actually present at the meetings...giving into them is giving into hearn and wilders team is full of people much smarter than hearn...that's just fact

    even though DAZN is separate from hearn....they are also related.....you don't go jerking someone like wilder around...someone with powerful men backing him....and then expect him to jump for you and run into your arms because you are shouting about some money that will still be on the table anyway

    that 100 mil can still be made by wilder...maybe even more

    I know some people here think AJ is beyond reproach and bulletproof...but trust me...if he isn't willing to come to the table to fight wilder without the demand that wilder signs a tv contract with his company than he will feel the heat

    people will scream "100 million 100 million 100 million omg yer an idiot".....remember who backs wilder.... smart men who know value and have been involved in some of the biggest fights in boxing......if they turn it down its because they see more potential for this fight if its down without this app and flat money...... its not because they are worried....if they were worried they wouldn't have said "send us a contract for 2018 and well fight in the UK for 12.5"......wilders team aren't worried...they just know better than a bunch of internet twats who hear "100 million" and think that's the best that can be had.....
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    #2
    stopped reading at "unbiased" lmao

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    • Curt Henning
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      in summary

      you don't jerk around wilder and his team...and think theyre gonna come running to you into your arms....they know they can still get this fight done without having to sign with DAZN

      its like when Floyd said "I aint chasing him..im not worried"..and pac fans somehow turned that into "see hes scared"....he wasn't...he was tired of dealing with bob...bob wasn't serious...and they knew it...so they stopped caring

      wilders team has reached a similar stage with hearn...maybe somehow if hearn is removed it can get done....that move though says it all...tells you all you need to know "meeting with skipper without the presence of eddie hearn".......hearn being removed from the situation tells you all you need to know about the root of it...the problem

      hopefully they can get something done after june 1st....just because wilder doesn't sign the DAZN deal doesn't mean it cant happen

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      • Curt Henning
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        #4
        not sure DAZN can afford to not have 100 percent rights to AJ/wilder and have AJ lose

        showtime/pbc can have 50 percent of the fight and wilder could lose and they will still be ok

        all the risk is on DAZN...they want to minimize it....wilders team understands this....

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        • bigtyivier2k2
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          #5
          Floyd didnt have enough confidence to fight Pac back then and waited for him to age. Even when he fought him finally his own father was yelling to him that he was fighting scared.
          Ill never forget this,

          https://********/2DF7EGRh8VQ

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          • Curt Henning
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            #6
            Originally posted by bigtyivier2k2
            Floyd didnt have enough confidence to fight Pac back then and waited for him to age. Even when he fought him finally his own father was yelling to him that he was fighting scared.
            Ill never forget this,

            https://********/2DF7EGRh8VQ
            this is a whole nother story/argument

            if Floyd didn't wanna fight pac he would have made Floyd/shane....he had to have haymon get berto to back out of his fight with shane in order to save Floyd because Floyd thought they were negotiating with pac...as soon as arum announced pac/clottey Floyd was scrambling for an opponent

            Floyd asked for drug tests and arum came up with 99 excuses...never forget the 99 excuses article of all actual quotes from arum...just google "arum 99 excuses"

            don't forget arums phony countdown clock on his TR website...for Floyd to accept an offer Floyd never received....when asked by fat dan "what concessions was many willing to make this time" he didn't answer....because there never was any deal..

            Floyd gave up and had enough of being jerked around and just waited until arum was ready to do it.....that was after he was knocked out by jmm and his star was starting to fade

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              #7
              this is scarier than that new zealanders manifesto.

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              • stellen
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                #8
                Originally posted by Split Decision
                stopped reading at "unbiased" lmao
                I know right. One of the biggest fanboys on here trying to claim impartiality ahahahaha.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Curt Henning
                  this is a whole nother story/argument

                  if Floyd didn't wanna fight pac he would have made Floyd/shane....he had to have haymon get berto to back out of his fight with shane in order to save Floyd because Floyd thought they were negotiating with pac...as soon as arum announced pac/clottey Floyd was scrambling for an opponent

                  Floyd asked for drug tests and arum came up with 99 excuses...never forget the 99 excuses article of all actual quotes from arum...just google "arum 99 excuses"

                  don't forget arums phony countdown clock on his TR website...for Floyd to accept an offer Floyd never received....when asked by fat dan "what concessions was many willing to make this time" he didn't answer....because there never was any deal..

                  Floyd gave up and had enough of being jerked around and just waited until arum was ready to do it.....that was after he was knocked out by jmm and his star was starting to fade
                  oh is that what happened lol. so floyd changed his demands when pac was in his prime and only offered him 40 million no ppv but after pac got knocked out and his star was starting to fade he offered him a 45-55 split. that makes perfect sense
                  Last edited by daggum; 03-16-2019, 11:10 AM.

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                  • Curt Henning
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by daggum
                    this is scarier than that new zealanders manifesto.
                    think about it realistically though

                    if DAZN does a 50/50 fight with AJ/wilder and AJ loses....then what?

                    if pbc does a 50/50 and wilder loses what do they really lose? not much...and they just made some good money having half of that fight

                    DAZN is desperate to have 100 percent rights to that fight....so if AJ loses it softens the blow....if AJ were to lose a fight that they split with wilders side it would be a big blow after all the money theve invested in AJ

                    wilders people know this...they aren't going to jump into their arms....DAZN cant really afford to have AJ lose unless they own 100 percent of the fight....wilders side isn't just gonna give into them and give them exactly what they need/want

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