Amanda Knox guilty

[George Orwell]

crazy west coast hippy white chick

[I Love Jesus!]

Yeah. That something was be singled out as "strange" and thus the grossly incompetent pigs built their entire investigation around her, her boyfriend, and a random black man.

When that random black man happened to have an iron-clad alibi -- along with being immensely well respected in the community -- they settled for the actual so-called black man that did it. So, after having their murderer, they would not relent from their original theory (even though it was already disproved), since they would have admit that they were complete idiots.

So ... she did something alright. She decided to study abroad in the Western nation with the most laughably incompetent Crime and Courts system. And, you, sir, do not **** about the case, or about CRJ (go take a class at your nearest community college) but still deem it necessary to comment. C*nt.

If any of you had actually bothered to read the evidence against Sollecito and Knox you'd surely see how strong it is. Kercher probably had to be killed by more than once person due to the manner of her death (If I recall correctly, standing up) and the lack of defensive wounds (only I think 3 or 4 small wounds, nothing like you'd expect unless at least one other was holding her from behind). The rest of the evidence is very compelling in terms of the physical evidence and so on and Sollecito and Knox's alibis were very poor indeed.


Unfortunately too many people are willing to get their sole information on this from what has been portrayed in a lot of the US media, particularly from Knox and her family themselves as if that was a reliable way to approach it. Also there has been a ludicrous amount of what is essentially racism, 'the Italian authorities must be crap and corrupt because they are not American'. And 'Knox must be innocent because she is American and her parents say she is innocent....'

There is evidence against Knox and a lot of it!

The only real mystery is the exact motivation that Sollecito and Knox had. It was a sexual crime that turned into murder. Sollecito and Knox are, or were at the time (hashish), in a pretty disturbed state it would seem. Whatever was going on in their heads they helped Guede sexually assault and murder Kercher and then tried to cover it up and Knox even accused an innocent man to divert the blame away from her.


http://themurderofmeredithkercher.co..._%28English%29

you two should have a death match 2 very strong but opposite opinions of the case. Who to believe?

[Kris Silver]

I don't find Knox hot at all. Not at all.She has those ****ing crazy eyes, and if I see those I get red flagged as fast as I would get hard seein Shakira naked. Keep anyone with crazy eyes, the **** away from me.

With that said, I feel she is innocent, and Italian justice system has done nothing but made itself out to be a joke to the world. I will never travel there because of this.

You feel she is innocent, care to elaborate? What makes you better placed than jury's and judges hearing the case in detail to be quite so sure? Even if you've watched a few documentaries (most strongly implicate) then this is a dis-proportionate generalisation to say you'd never go to a country again over 1 mere case.

Imagine if every Italian said that when an Italian was genuinely wrongly jailed (which happens). You'd run out of pizza joints.

[Da Machine]

You feel she is innocent, care to elaborate? What makes you better placed than jury's and judges hearing the case in detail to be quite so sure? Even if you've watched a few documentaries (most strongly implicate) then this is a dis-proportionate generalisation to say you'd never go to a country again over 1 mere case.

Imagine if every Italian said that when an Italian was genuinely wrongly jailed (which happens). You'd run out of pizza joints.

Ok I'll play along even though I don't care.

First off. "Feel" and "quite so sure" aren't the same thing.

Secondly, I would never go into a country again that allows re trials. It basically screams we don't give a **** about rights. If we feel you are guilty we will try and try again until we get a conviction.

Last off, there is no hard evidence saying she murdered anyone. It's been spelled out for you throughout the thread.

[Kris Silver]

Ok I'll play along even though I don't care.

First off. "Feel" and "quite so sure" aren't the same thing.

Secondly, I would never go into a country again that allows re trials. It basically screams we don't give a **** about rights. If we feel you are guilty we will try and try again until we get a conviction.

Last off, there is no hard evidence saying she murdered anyone. It's been spelled out for you throughout the thread.

So by your own standards if you aren't sure but just feel your own state is guilty of wrongly persecuting an innocent, you would leave the state?

As for not guilty being spelt out in this thread, wow send it over to her lawyers. Or actually, I can quote where just the opposite happened with detailed information in contrary to what you've offered, one of which underlining it was technically even by American standards, not entirely double jeopardy as you have assumed.

You might want to read the following (with an open mind):

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=6643
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=6644
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=6645

America will have little choice but to extradite Amanda Knox if Italy requests it, according to legal experts.

Knox says she will only go back to Italy "kicking and screaming" after an Italian court ruled she should not have been cleared.

But expectations that America will not extradite Knox to serve a 28-year sentence are unfounded, according to lawyers.

Gemma Lindfield, a UK barrister, specialising in extradition, told Sky News: "There's a valid extradition treaty between the US and Italy.

"The countries made that agreement in good faith and there's no reason why the Italians would not submit a request.

"The US would be obliged to arrest her on the extradition request and there would then be proceedings in the US."

Ms Lindfield said it was likely that Knox would vigorously fight the request in the US courts, most likely on the grounds of double jeopardy, passage of time or fairness.

"It would, however, be very difficult for a US court to sit in judgement of the Italian legal system and its fairness," Ms Lindfield, based at 7 Bedford Row chambers, said.

"I would also find it hard to conceive that they could refuse the request on the grounds of double jeopardy.

"In fact, I cannot see any reason why she would not be extradited."

Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz agreed that American judges will have little choice but to grant Italy's request.

"The United States seeks extradition of more people than any country in the world," Mr Dershowitz

"We're trying to get NSA leaker Edward Snowden back and we're not going to extradite someone convicted of murder?" he told NBC News.

The professor said he doubted that even double jeopardy - where someone cannot be tried twice for the same offence - will protect Knox.

This is because she was initially found guilty and her acquittal was heard at an intermediate appeals level.

"If that happened in the US, it wouldn't be double jeopardy," he said.

Knox, risks immediate arrest if she leaves America, and could be seized if she sets foot in the EU

Girl has a rich CEO father, pulled strings, media campaign to modify perception - originally most people thought she was guilty. Rest of world still thinks shes guilty. Too many lies in her testimony, staged break-in from inside made it look like there was a break in, but murderers had free access to house, her and bf turned off phones when murder committed and turnd on next morning. Their alibis do not match and were disproven. Knox blamed the bar owner down the street who was later proven innocent. Knox doing cartwheels and shopping for lingerie during proceedings. However, DNA evidence was in question and they never established a strong motive.. . but . . crazy girls fight all the time, motive enough. There was a history of tension between them.

Kercher was not dating the Nigerian. My belief is that Knox coordinated the rape to punish Kercher by colluding and staying out of the house and giving Nigerian access to house. Nigerian murdered Kercher because she could ID him, Knox and Salecito then helped clean up apartment, buying bleach, disposing of murder weapons and making it look like a break in (disproven.) Its possible Knox and Salecito were actually involved in the rape/murder, as witnesses or to hold her down. Knox lied enough that her character is in serious question and had history of agressive/sociopathic behavior.

Everyone knows she was involved, but they couldn't pinpoint a motive so they suggested sex game, and later they suggested fight over housework. The DNA collection wasn't clean, but there WAS kerchers dna on blade of kitchen knife that matches one of the cuts. However, there was enough circumstantial evidence to strongly implicate Knox/Salecito.

This was not "double jeopardy", it is portrayed as that. Italy has a different justice system. Knox was not acquitted, but she was released from jail in preparation for a supreme court trial. The original appeal was planned and certain evidence was blocked. When all evidence is considered, she was found guilty by two separate courts.

If any of you had actually bothered to read the evidence against Sollecito and Knox you'd surely see how strong it is. Kercher probably had to be killed by more than once person due to the manner of her death (If I recall correctly, standing up) and the lack of defensive wounds (only I think 3 or 4 small wounds, nothing like you'd expect unless at least one other was holding her from behind). The rest of the evidence is very compelling in terms of the physical evidence and so on and Sollecito and Knox's alibis were very poor indeed.


Unfortunately too many people are willing to get their sole information on this from what has been portrayed in a lot of the US media, particularly from Knox and her family themselves as if that was a reliable way to approach it. Also there has been a ludicrous amount of what is essentially racism, 'the Italian authorities must be crap and corrupt because they are not American'. And 'Knox must be innocent because she is American and her parents say she is innocent....'

There is evidence against Knox and a lot of it!

The only real mystery is the exact motivation that Sollecito and Knox had. It was a sexual crime that turned into murder. Sollecito and Knox are, or were at the time (hashish), in a pretty disturbed state it would seem. Whatever was going on in their heads they helped Guede sexually assault and murder Kercher and then tried to cover it up and Knox even accused an innocent man to divert the blame away from her.


http://themurderofmeredithkercher.co..._%28English%29

[COVID-19]

She should just go back to Italy and face the music. This girl is a wanted fugitive.

[DeltaSigChi4]

you two should have a death match 2 very strong but opposite opinions of the case. Who to believe?

Well, you can believe no one and go read all published literature, watch all documentaries and get a Criminal Justice degree on your own and form your own thoughts on the case. Or, you can believe the ******* who is copy-pasting from a biased website. Or, you can believe me: every thing I post is from memory.

I am pre-law. And all experts -- All! -- state the same: this was one of the most ridiculously botched investigations that a civilised nation in the twenty-first centuries could ever execute.

Oh, it was the black man and these weirdos. Oh, wait ... that black man has an iron-clad alibi ... uh, it was this black man in fact. *switches black men* Oh, and our original theory stands: the weirdos were still involved. Forget that the only "evidence" we have is the tainted one we produced ourselves.