List your ATG's since the 80's

[IronDanHamza]

Whitaker
Jones Jr
Holyfield
Mayweather
Pacquaio
Hopkins
Morales
Barrera
Toney

Think that's all the ATG's I'd have from 90-present.

Edit - I forgot McCallum and Marquez.

[Left Hook Tua]

Whitaker
Jones Jr
Holyfield
Mayweather
Pacquaio
Hopkins
Morales
Barrera
Toney

Think that's all the ATG's I'd have from 90-present.

toney probably isn't.

not because of skills , because he was better than half the guys on that list skill-wise imo.

but.....he went MIA 175-190 until jirov fight imo.

[IMDAZED]

toney probably isn't.

not because of skills , because he was better than half the guys on that list skill-wise imo.

but.....he went MIA 175-190 until jirov fight imo.

Yeah but that's one division, really. Pacquiao didn't do anything at 135 either. Toney's resume at 160, his epic win over Jirov followed by his HW success is ATG worthy.

[Left Hook Tua]

Yeah but that's one division, really. Pacquiao didn't do anything at 135 either. Toney's resume at 160, his epic win over Jirov followed by his HW success is ATG worthy.

hey don't get me wrong..... love me some toney.

i think in his prime , properly motivated , in shape , well trained...... toney beats anyone under heavyweight and a lot of the good smaller heavyweights too.

but from roy loss to vassiliy win was like 7 years i think.

he had training issues , weight issues , problems getting big fights , etc.

[IronDanHamza]

toney probably isn't.

not because of skills , because he was better than half the guys on that list skill-wise imo.

but.....he went MIA 175-190 until jirov fight imo.

I agree it's certainly debatable.

And I wouldn't argue if someone were to think he wasn't an ATG. Nor would I if someone did.

I do feel he atleast has some sort of argument for ATG status though, from what he achieved. Despite his inconsistency.

[Left Hook Tua]

I agree it's certainly debatable.

And I wouldn't argue if someone were to think he wasn't an ATG. Nor would I if someone did.

I do feel he atleast has some sort of argument for ATG status though, from what he achieved. Despite his inconsistency.

i remember roy jones saying something about how with toney's weight issues or whatever..... that he thought toney should have jumped to heavyweight and skipped 175-190 altogether.

i would have liked to see that.

see a 5'10 200 lb. toney in his prime competing with the big boys.

i really would have enjoyed seeing how that turned out in the 90's-early 2000's.

[SCtrojansbaby]

In no order

Holyfield
Lennox
Pernell
Wlad
JCC
Camacho
Trinidad
Barrera
Morales
Wonjongkam
Floyd
Pacquiao
Winky
McCallum
Hopkins
Eubank
RJJ
Toney
Mosley
De La Hoya
Humberto Gonzalez
Carbajal
Ricardo Lopez
Rafeal Marquez
JM Marquez
Terry Norris
Starling

[Walt Liquor]

Sweet Pea
Roy Jones Jr
BHop
Pac
Floyd (i now think I finally have him as ATG after his last win)
Lennox
Evander
MAB
el Terrible

Jmm borderline

[Walt Liquor]

In no order

Holyfield
Lennox
Pernell
Wlad
JCC
Camacho
Trinidad
Barrera
Morales
Wonjongkam
Floyd
Pacquiao
Winky
McCallum
Hopkins
Eubank
RJJ
Toney
Mosley
De La Hoya
Humberto Gonzalez
Carbajal
Ricardo Lopez
Rafeal Marquez
JM Marquez
Terry Norris
Starling

Is this ATG or HOF?


or do you consider both the same thing?

[IMDAZED]

hey don't get me wrong..... love me some toney.

i think in his prime , properly motivated , in shape , well trained...... toney beats anyone under heavyweight and a lot of the good smaller heavyweights too.

but from roy loss to vassiliy win was like 7 years i think.

he had training issues , weight issues , problems getting big fights , etc.

Yes....but that doesn't take away from what he accomplished.