Originally posted by Six Shooter
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Was John Ruiz "shot" against Haye?
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Originally posted by braddman View PostHe looked NOTHING like the Ruiz that fought Jones. NOT ONE BIT. There were more clinches in the Haye fight by Haye than Jones. How is that similar to the Ruiz that fought Jones?
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Originally posted by Six Shooter View PostFor all the guys that say he's shot, can you please tell me what has declined? He looked like the same John Ruiz that fought Roy Jones to me.
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ruiz is 37 but he was in shape & hadn't really been active the last few years.there are lots of late 30's fighters still boxing.haye is better than you give him credit for.so what if his chin is suspect,so is wlads.wlads been down 13 times! Ruiz been knocked out once before the haye fight.haye is young,powerful & fast.he's shown an ability to make adjustments.he's got wins over Barrett,valuev & ruiz now.how many former world champs has vitali fought? 3 Byrd,lewis,peter...he's 1-2 ,haye 2 for 2.he's already beat more former champs in 3 fights than vitali has in his career.haye is not just a hype job.he's for real.he's done exactly what he said he would do.get a belt for better negotiating leverage.no one believed him but he's done it.he's also got both klits seething mad & they need him more than he need them.he can make millions without them & retire now.while the klits haven't faced anyone as dangerous as him in years.haye is going to fight them! Don't worry about that. he's not stupid he's going to get every bit of money he can get.he wants to retire at 31.that means at most he'll fight 7 times at heavyweight.he may not beat either klitschko but he'll get filthy rich once he does.the klits care about legacy while haye only cares about $$$$.2 totally different motivations.haye don't care if he loses as long as he cashes out.
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No way he was "shot". People keep throwing that word around. Cotto is shot, Diaz is shot, and now Ruiz in shot.
These guys are not shot.
Roy Jones - shot.
Castillo - shot.
Ruiz was not shot. Past prime? Yes. But no way was he shot.
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Past his best, but not shot. At the very least he tried to make a fight out of it (and got some shots in, mainly due to Haye's carelessness), whereas someone like Jones couldn't even get off the starting blocks against Calzaghe and Hopkins - now that is shot.
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