Why is MP even mentioned??
Announcement
Collapse
No announcement yet.
Bigger hypejob Pacquiao, Golovkin, Broner, Mora or Lomachenko?
Collapse
-
-
I think it's a tie tbh
Pacquiao- Most of his top wins were against guys recently coming off losses or subpar performances, robbed Marquez at least twice, and used TBE's name to further his own career with no real intention in fighting him. When he finally decided to fight Floyd he got dominated and used another classic excuse as to why he did so bad. Manny is TBE, he has The Best Excuses! He is also the catchweight king, loves to drain them!!!
GGG- dominated when the middleweight division was non existent, the quality of his opponents were weak, and when he finally stepped up competition he basically got a gift decision against Daniel Jacobs and was lucky to get a draw against ca$hnelo. The only reason why the fight was close was because ca$hnelo gave rounds away, GGG could barely land sht besides the jab. Now that the division is competitive he wants to duck Andrade and Derevyanchenko, and cherry pick opponents lol.
Last edited by mcdonalds; 04-12-2018, 09:44 AM.
Comment
-
Originally posted by chrisJS View PostThere's really no such thing as p4p but he'd already handled Bradley easily in 2012 so he had his number and actually had a harder time in 2014 and 2016. Name the other p4p top 5 fighter he beat? Rios, Algieri, Vargas were not p4p in mine or anybodies rankings surely?
There's many cases of once great fighters scoring a win when clearly past their best. Pacquaio was ended as a great fighter in 2012. It's in common sense and it's in the performances.
And no again you said this **** last time he beat him easier the 3rd time, dropping him and winning clearly. You don't beat Bradley easily if you are finished as a fighter that is just a fact.
Vargas was Top 10 at WW and a good solid fighter and he beat him easily. Something else you don't do when you are finished as a fighter.
Many cases huh? Name me one case of a finished fighter who beat two top fighters in their division consecutively one of which was Top 5 P4P.
Comment
-
Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostAnd? So what he beat him before?
And no again you said this **** last time he beat him easier the 3rd time, dropping him and winning clearly. You don't beat Bradley easily if you are finished as a fighter that is just a fact.
Vargas was Top 10 at WW and a good solid fighter and he beat him easily. Something else you don't do when you are finished as a fighter.
Many cases huh? Name me one case of a finished fighter who beat two top fighters in their division consecutively one of which was Top 5 P4P.
Tommy Hearns was quite a ways from his best but he managed to soundly defeat Virgil Hill. Roberto Duran was way pst his best and had suffered bad losses beat Barkley. There's many more faded greats who've scored huge wins bigger than PacquIo-Bradley and Vargas.
I get it you like Floyd A LOT. You want to protect that win like he beat a prime Pacquaio but there's a HUGE difference in Pacquaio pre and post Marquez. That KO and everything else had caught up to him. He'd lost his explosiveness and he wasn't taking risks in there anymore. Surely losing to a very average fighter like Jeff Horn shows this?Last edited by chrisJS; 04-12-2018, 09:35 AM.
Comment
-
Originally posted by chrisJS View PostThat's a very specific situation and the eras are different. Danny Garcia has beaten more champions than Hagler or Sanchez he's not better. Also p4p isn't a real thing. Bradley wouldn't have been in my top 5 just because the Ring said so doesn't make it so. It could be debated he brought a 3 fight losing streak into fight 2. Vargas is a solid guy not much more really.
Tommy Hearns was quite a ways from his best but he managed to soundly defeat Virgil Hill. Roberto Duran was way pst his best and had suffered bad losses beat Barkley.
I get it you like Floyd A LOT. You want to protect that win like he beat a prime Pacquaio but there's a HUGE difference in Pacquaio pre and post Marquez. That KO and everything else had caught up to him. He'd lost his explosiveness and he wasn't taking risks in there anymore. Surely losing to a very average fighter like Jeff Horn shows this?
Comment
-
Originally posted by Thraxox View PostI don't get his argument. He's trying to pass of Pac as a ATG win for Mayweather when Pacquiao was already KOed and was 36 years old.
Comment
-
-
-
Originally posted by chrisJS View PostThere's really no such thing as p4p but he'd already handled Bradley easily in 2012 so he had his number and actually had a harder time in 2014 and 2016. Name the other p4p top 5 fighter he beat? Rios, Algieri, Vargas were not p4p in mine or anybodies rankings surely?
There's many cases of once great fighters scoring a win when clearly past their best. Pacquaio was ended as a great fighter in 2012. It's in common sense and it's in the performances.
Get it through your thick skull
MANNY LOST
Smh.
And yeah HORN beat him too. FACT
Hands down Pacquiao is the biggest hypejob in history. The only fanbase that has an excuse for every loss so they don't count.
Comment
Comment