Rafael says Wilder no. 1, Joshua is no. 2 and Fury is no. 3

[Joe Beamish]

There needs to be only one champion. One face. One name.

Period.

Yeah. Like in the welterweight division!

[Furn]

Even if you count the draw as a draw fury has better wins than wilder.

Joshua's loss drops him to 3 for now I guess.

[rocky_balboa23]

i feel that Ortiz is now a more dangerous fighter than Joshua. AJ is now soft and scared to open up.

Wilder, Fury, Ortiz, Joshua

[QueensburyRules]

I’m not sure how anyone can reach that conclusion.

I think Fury is no.1, Wilder is no. 2, Ortiz is no. 3 and Joshua is no. 4. That’s just because I’m not even sure Ruiz is a top 10 heavyweight.

I have no clue how you put Joshua above Fury.

- -There you go drinkin' instead of thinking."

[QueensburyRules]

Even if you count the draw as a draw fury has better wins than wilder.

Joshua's loss drops him to 3 for now I guess.

- -AJ won!

U 3 yards short of a full load?

[hugh grant]

Hard to say whos the top heavies and none have fought each other. We can say fury is better than wilder as he beat him. Josh and ruiz are equal as they beat each other once. And thats where trail ends.
They need to swap dance partners. Same as people trying to argue whos best ww when none fought each other. Only pac has a win out of quartet over thurman so has case for being no1 ww.

[QueensburyRules]

I’m not sure how anyone can reach that conclusion.

I think Fury is no.1, Wilder is no. 2, Ortiz is no. 3 and Joshua is no. 4. That’s just because I’m not even sure Ruiz is a top 10 heavyweight.

I have no clue how you put Joshua above Fury.

- -U never had a clue.

AJ unified, not U sweethearts.

[QueensburyRules]

Joshua's loss drops him to 3 for now I guess.

- -U guess on one hand and soil the other ratings is it?

[Toffee]

If you have Joshua behind Fury and Wilder you have to ignore:
- Belts
- Resume

and instead judge by:
- Eye test/Fantasy fight outcome
- Whether they've ever taken an L

I'll dismiss anyone who thinks an L is the be all and end all. Would they have Wilder ahead of Ali or Lewis on their all time list? No, so don't judge the L so significantly.

I'll leave others to decide if the eye test is a credible way to rate them.

In resume and belts, it's not even close.

And I don't know how anyone is rating Joshua below 3rd. No idea what criteria they're using for that..

[Joe Beamish]

If you have Joshua behind Fury and Wilder you have to ignore:
- Belts
- Resume

In resume and belts, it's not even close.

The resume helps me. For example, Wilder did NOT get knocked out by Ruiz.

THAT is on Joshua's resume.

So yeah.