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Which is more drained? Canelo at 152 or Cotto at 145?

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  • #31
    Originally posted by Chuckguy View Post
    Canelo said the same thing after and it's only 2 pounds but for a guy like canelo that's a lot seeing as he was already killing himself to make 155
    Cotto faded Canelo didn't and Canelo is notorious for fading, look at at Cotto and 154 he was as strong as a bull and doesn't slow down.

    There is no doubt both were weight effected to suggest one is worse than the other is fanboy stuff.

    The thing is Manny has the world record for draining fighters and manipulating weight he would force guys one way or the other depending on if they thought they could get an advantage.

    The most blatant scenario of weight posturing was Manny vs Cotto for Cottos WW title at 145, Cotto didn't even want to put his title on the line but Arum being the same promoter pressured Cotto on the weight and putting his title up. He threw Cotto under the bus and Cotto quickly left when he legally could.

    Manny calls Cotto out when Cotto held the 154 belt, Cotto says no problems but no CW, Manny takes off like a Jack Rabbit and Floyd steps in.

    Now if Manny really beat Cotto the man and not a weight drained Cotto he would not have ran away after he called him out the second time, it was weight that beat Cotto and that's why Manny flat refuses to fight Cotto without a CW, if he had Cottos number he should be able to beat him at any weight, he didn't want to even try after he was the one that called him out.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Kigali View Post
      Canelo rehydrated back to a comfortable weight

      He didn't gass-out like he did against Chavez Jr.
      Nelo was just having fun getting in some nice work for a 1mil PPV and to pay back All-Star. I mean, I dont think Nelo put in any work for that fight considering Jr... what boxing star doesnt sit on his stool acting like Foreman nowadays?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
        Cotto faded Canelo didn't and Canelo is notorious for fading, look at at Cotto and 154 he was as strong as a bull and doesn't slow down.

        There is no doubt both were weight effected to suggest one is worse than the other is fanboy stuff.

        The thing is Manny has the world record for draining fighters and manipulating weight he would force guys one way or the other depending on if they thought they could get an advantage.

        The most blatant scenario of weight posturing was Manny vs Cotto for Cottos WW title at 145, Cotto didn't even want to put his title on the line but Arum being the same promoter pressured Cotto on the weight and putting his title up. He threw Cotto under the bus and Cotto quickly left when he legally could.

        Manny calls Cotto out when Cotto held the 154 belt, Cotto says no problems but no CW, Manny takes off like a Jack Rabbit and Floyd steps in.

        Now if Manny really beat Cotto the man and not a weight drained Cotto he would not have ran away after he called him out the second time, it was weight that beat Cotto and that's why Manny flat refuses to fight Cotto without a CW, if he had Cottos number he should be able to beat him at any weight, he didn't want to even try after he was the one that called him out.
        And if Floyd wanted to beat Cotto, the man, he would have fought him five years earlier before he git beat the fk up by Manny and Margarito..

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        • #34
          Originally posted by LockardTheGOAT View Post
          They would have rehydrated to a health(ier) weight by fight night, so who cares.
          This Canelo was never going to be Floyd and Cotto got beat bad by Pac.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Chuckguy View Post
            History will also remember floyds calculated retirements and his cherry picking
            Nobody could beat the cherry picker on top of that he was a light puncher..

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            • #36
              Originally posted by meme_man View Post
              This Canelo was never going to be Floyd and Cotto got beat bad by Pac.
              Floyd had Cotto hurt more than Canelo did.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Jsmooth9876 View Post
                And if Floyd wanted to beat Cotto, the man, he would have fought him five years earlier before he git beat the fk up by Manny and Margarito..
                It was not presented at the time, Floyd fought him when he was mentally and weighted to win, Manny fought him drained and mentally wrecked, Cotto got better as he got older after he beat Margarito because it removed a monkey of his back and he was rejuvenated, when Manny beat him Roach said he was damaged goods because it was so close to the Margo cheat beating, later Roach said Cotto was better than ever at the higher weight.

                Manny beat Cotto because of weight that's a fact and the evidence proves its he flat refuses to fight Cotto without a CW that says everything.

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                • #38
                  Obviously nelo was worse. He was green as well which makes it even worse win for Floyd. At least Miguel was established and proven

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Kigali View Post
                    Floyd had Cotto hurt more than Canelo did.
                    All i know Floyd went 3 and 0 against them with Cotto giving the hardest fight and Pac was the easier of the three.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by meme_man View Post
                      All i know Floyd went 3 and 0 against them with Cotto giving the hardest fight and Pac was the easier of the three.
                      Did you ask Floyd?

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